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Coaching hires gone right, wrong and somewhere in between

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Interesting read from the outside looking in at the following programs from the article.

Coaching hires gone right, wrong and somewhere in between

THIRD QUARTER

With the inevitable but abrupt firing of Chris Ash at Rutgers on Sunday, the coaching carousel has lurched into action. There will be more activity in the weeks to come.

The Ash-Rutgers marriage, undertaken in 2016, was never a strong one. The demands of that job didn’t match what he brought to the table as an assistant coach at Ohio State. But it went even worse than expected, with Ash winning just eight of his 40 games on the job and taking a 16-game losing streak to Power Five opponents into unemployment. The only thing worse than the hire was the ludicrous contract extension Ash was given in 2017, which did nothing other than guarantee a higher buyout for the school when the time came.

Let’s take a look at some other hires made around the same time, and how they’ve turned out so far: (READ FULL ARTICLE)

 
With the most recent win, I think a lot of us are much more even tempered in regards to Muschamp. I know I am not as angry as I was following the Missouri loss. Of course that does not mean Muschamp and staff are off the hook. I was never really thrilled with the hire, in fact I thought it was a hoax up until the official announcement, but he has delivered decent results on the recruiting trail like we thought he would. Even though that has not translated to wins on the field, nor does it look to in the near future, I still think it is a smarter move to keep him for the next few years.

One reason is the buyout, of course, but it also does the program no favors to pull the trigger on a new HC hire after only 4 years. Instead what we should be doing is quietly courting the next hire now in the event that we do let Muschamp go after year 5 or 6. Reach out to someone who has had sustained success at the position in a lesser venue, and begin slow selling him on the idea of coaching here. In the meantime if Muschamp does work out, and begins winning, we're in good position with what we have. If not, then we've already hedged our bets and have the next guy lined up.

 
cocky0 said:
With the most recent win, I think a lot of us are much more even tempered in regards to Muschamp. I know I am not as angry as I was following the Missouri loss. Of course that does not mean Muschamp and staff are off the hook. I was never really thrilled with the hire, in fact I thought it was a hoax up until the official announcement, but he has delivered decent results on the recruiting trail like we thought he would. Even though that has not translated to wins on the field, nor does it look to in the near future, I still think it is a smarter move to keep him for the next few years.

One reason is the buyout, of course, but it also does the program no favors to pull the trigger on a new HC hire after only 4 years. Instead what we should be doing is quietly courting the next hire now in the event that we do let Muschamp go after year 5 or 6. Reach out to someone who has had sustained success at the position in a lesser venue, and begin slow selling him on the idea of coaching here. In the meantime if Muschamp does work out, and begins winning, we're in good position with what we have. If not, then we've already hedged our bets and have the next guy lined up.
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If needed but still in hopes Muschamp wins here and can put this to rest. 

 
I remember back in the good ole days when I used to scream for the taters to "Keep Dabo", laughing the whole time.  Now who's laughing?

 
gamecock88 said:
Written by Captain Obvious 
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apparently he didn't hear that the only reason champ didn't win at florida was because someone else forced him to hire different OCs and if he had just been able to hire Roper from the beginning...or was it that he isn't winning at SC because it doesn't have the resources UNC has...or I'm really having trouble keeping track of the fatally flawed reasons for defending the man. At least captain obvious acknowledge that we're probably stuck with him because of his buy out and not his ability. 

 
cocky0 said:
With the most recent win, I think a lot of us are much more even tempered in regards to Muschamp. I know I am not as angry as I was following the Missouri loss. Of course that does not mean Muschamp and staff are off the hook. I was never really thrilled with the hire, in fact I thought it was a hoax up until the official announcement, but he has delivered decent results on the recruiting trail like we thought he would. Even though that has not translated to wins on the field, nor does it look to in the near future, I still think it is a smarter move to keep him for the next few years.

One reason is the buyout, of course, but it also does the program no favors to pull the trigger on a new HC hire after only 4 years. Instead what we should be doing is quietly courting the next hire now in the event that we do let Muschamp go after year 5 or 6. Reach out to someone who has had sustained success at the position in a lesser venue, and begin slow selling him on the idea of coaching here. In the meantime if Muschamp does work out, and begins winning, we're in good position with what we have. If not, then we've already hedged our bets and have the next guy lined up.
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I don't think you could quietly court anyone in today's world of college football.  Too many people watching and paying attention to everyone's every move.  I think a good AD is keeping relationships open with all kinds of coaches, but not necessarily with the intent being known.  

 
Longhaul said:
I don't think you could quietly court anyone in today's world of college football.  Too many people watching and paying attention to everyone's every move.  I think a good AD is keeping relationships open with all kinds of coaches, but not necessarily with the intent being known.  
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I'm talking like maybe doing the guy small favors or something. Of course let him know that one day, and that day may never come, we will call upon him to do for us a service. But until that day, accept this justice on the day of our daughter's wedding.

 
Bringing in a new coach every 4 years is a recipe for failure. Just look at Tennessee since they fired Fulmer. IMO unless the coach is absolutely terrible, or has significant player discipline issues, you give a coach the benefit of the doubt for about 6 years. 

 
Sad to say, but a 13-14 SEC record historically speaking is not bad at South Carolina.

 
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