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Game week1: Talking North Carolina Tarheels (Discussion Thread)

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Game week1: Talking North Carolina Tarheels (Discussion Thread)

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Gamecock Football is right at 2 weeks away, just think Gamecocks will begin the Game preparation for the Tarheels  next few days. With the season so close time to talk Gamecocks vs Tarheels. Will the offensive line be one of the better groups? The defense will it stand up? Will injuries show there ugly head? What will Feaster do in his first outing as a Gamecock? Secondary will it be able to close the deal when needed? Bentley is the year he shows up for every game? So much more to talk about. Here is your chance. Let's hear what you have to say, are you confident that the Gamecocks can get it done the first week of the season? What are the strong points For the Tarheels? Do they have any advantages, be the kicking game running backs etc.?

GO COCKS!!

 
My take

QB - I think Jake showed that he has changed some according to the Manning camp. I think if we establish a running game, Jake will really be able to shine. Can he become a Heisman candidate, I don't think so because we will have so many yards rushing we won't need 3000 passing.

RB - I think Rico and Traevon will both start with Rico getting the first handoff. They are both going to look so good it will be difficult to decide which should get the most carries but they are going to be keeping each other fresh and driving. We are going to see a running game similar to Lattimore, and Maddox days. They are both going to get some really good yardage. And Mon is going to be like Dimarco and bull over them for 2 TDs himself.

WR - I have found that Jake will mix it up some. Edwards, and Shi Smith will see a lot of double coverage but still make plays. OrTre, Vann, and Randrecous will all have openings and lots of yards. There are 7 other WR's out there. Rush and Legette should be able to show out some but definitely no shortage of targets.

TE - Shame what happened with Pollard but we have several good TE's on the rooster even if Muse does not get the waiver. Markaway will see a bunch of those underneath passes and he can hurt some DBs that try to tackle him. I think he will get one of the TDs.

OL - Really feel good about the line up and hope these guys excel. After practicing against our DL they should be ready for any other team.

DL - There is a whole lot of talent here and they seem to be really healthy. These guys know that a lot of our problems last year were all the injuries, but that helped the younger players get some snaps. Now with everyone ready, not only will we have a big aggressive line, we will have experienced relievers to give them a little breathing time. I expect we will see plenty of substitutions and that rookie QB running for his life. He will throw 2 Ints. The RBs will remember that brick wall they kept hitting.

LB - Thompson, Staley, and Green are Ready. As long as Jones or Boykins hold the middle down we should be really good. They can all cover passes and should all help when a RB does try to get past the line. I really hope our DL doesn't even allow gaps.

Secondary - DJ, J.T. and Jamyest are all going to have pro scouts salivating. Hopefully having to play so much last year will make all our Soph. be a really incredible defense this year. You hear names like Mukuamu, and Horn, and Roderick, and Dickerson and you think these guys are all SRs but they are all only Soph.

When coach says this is his best team yet, it is easy to see why. They really are a good talented team with loads of depth. Do we have another Lattimore, Jeffrey, Sanders or Clowney? Not exactly but I feel we have guys that can play just that good and maybe a little better.

Against UNC...Halftime 14-10 Cocks   Final 42-10       UNC - 2 turnovers with 1 pick 6.          Jake = 260 yards         RB = 245  Lots of 2nd string playing time.

 
We have so many upperclass skill position players and key production players coming into this season, that it's hard for me NOT to be optimistic for the team this season, the tough schedule notwithstanding. Not only has the comments from Coach Muschamp been positive and optimistic regarding the team overall, but also he and OL Coach Wolford has been pretty positive regarding the OL's scrimmages as well. It's always refreshing to hear good things about the LOS units, as important as they are to successful football.

The UNC fanbase has been very optimistic about their DC Jay Bateman's defenses at Army, like it is some mystery genius defense never before seen by man. Certainly, unique and unfamiliar defenses can be troublesome for opposing offenses - much as the triple option is always like that for defenses. And this also brings up a good segue for my next point regarding Bateman's defenses at Army:

Army runs the triple option flexbone. Here is a description of it from an article put out by USAToday in 2018:

Every possession is precious for Army.

Every play the Black Knights run is a well-choreographed, hidden-ball trick, designed to flummox and punish opponents who are almost always bigger, faster and stronger. But it's not just defending Army's triple-option that makes the Cadets so hard to handle.

The flex-bone offense has been a problem for defenses for years, whether it was being run by Georgia Southern or Georgia Tech, Army or Navy. Embedded into the attack is a strict adherence to one of football's simplest truths: Your opponent cannot score without the ball.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2018/09/27/army-combines-old-school-offense-21st-century-analytics/37963991/

Army is a run, then run, then run some more offense. They can go entire games only throwing 2-3 passes. With Bateman as their DC, Army was 10th nationally in 2018 in scoring defense, and 8th in total defense. In 2017, they dropped off a bit to 32nd in both scoring and total defense. In 2016, they were 15th nationally in scoring defense, and 4th in total defense. The Tarheel "insiders" and fans are pretty high on Bateman.

But the thing with a program that runs an effective triple option offense, is that it's not just the defense for that team that has the goal of keeping opposing offenses off of the field. Everyone knows that a team will struggle mightily to score points if its offense is never on the field, and games are won by scoring the most points. Typically keeping opposing offenses off of the field falls on your team's defense first and foremost, but with a triple option offense, a team's defense gets major help from the other side of the ball.

Last season (2018), Army led the nation in offensive Time of Possession, by a substantial margin over the #2-best FBS team. In 2017, they were 4th nationally, and in 2016 they were 3rd nationally.

So Army's offense went a long way to helping Army's and Bateman's defense look shiny. Under Head Coach Jeff Monken, they overhauled their offensive approach in 2016: in 2014 & 2015 - Bateman's first 2 seasons as DC - the team was a poor team, and Bateman's defenses were poor defenses.

Now, it will be interesting to see how his defense will perform at UNC. Bateman goes from a hardcore rushing offense - where holding onto the ball on the field and running the game clock is paramount - to a somewhat hardcore passing offense under Tarheel OC Phil Longo. In two seasons as Ole Miss' OC, the Rebels were 13th in the SEC in Time Of Possession for both 2018 & 2017. That was good enough for 123rd and 128th nationally, respectively, the last 2 seasons out of 130 FBS programs. Bateman's defense will NOT get any help from Longo's offense, and less help than most other offenses would give him.

Of course, South Carolina was 130th nationally last season, in offensive Time of Possession. Something we definitely have to improve upon, and it starts with a more effective rush offense. We moved the ball well (43rd in Total Offense), and were effective in overall First Down production (41st in 3rd Down Conversions, 50th in total 1st Downs), so our offensive system has real potential when it's executed well. Our execution last season was not very well at all, in turnovers - particularly in Red-Zone turnovers - and in Red Zone Efficiency (118th nationally in Red Zone Conversion %). Even 2-9 UNC converted better in the Red Zone last season than we did, which is terrible.

But we have a veteran offense at the skill positions. We have a solid OL. UNC has inexperience and lack of depth at QB and WR - despite strength at RB - and return only 2 starters to their OL. We have again great veteran experience and solid depth along the Front 7, while UNC has only 2 experienced DT, but questions along the rest of the DL and LB positions abound. So for this game, most of the advantages on paper are on the Gamecock's side.....

 
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UNC is going with a True Freshman.


True freshman Sam Howell has emerged as leader in North Carolina QB battle w/redshirt freshmen Jace Ruder & Cade Fortin battling for back-up spot

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) August 18, 2019




North Carolina picks true freshman as starting QB ahead of Week 1 game vs. South Carolina https://t.co/FGscJsDLq6

— USC Gamecocks on SDS (@Gamecocks) August 18, 2019


 
True Freshmen or Redshirt Freshmen, I don't think either will be ready for the Pass rushes they will face. They will need to be quick and hopefully our secondary won't give them any good targets. 

 
I hope we put at least 50 on them. I've read some of there conversations about our team, even though some things were correct, as a whole they remind me of Clemson fans. When our defense tackles the man with the ball I hope they wrap up and hit him so hard that he's looking for the number of the truck from the last hit. I'm hoping that they come out and put all the off season talk on the field and strike fear. Offensively and defensively they need to earn their respect from the so-called experts and prove to themselves that their just not full of hot air. I don't have a doubt that we win but by how much I couldn't call it.

 
I watched a lot of Sam Howell's 2018 tape from high school. Kid has the measurements, throwing technique, arm power, speed, and elusiveness to be a legit NFL starter one day. But as of right now, his accuracy is spotty, his eye discipline is absolutely horrendous, his decision making is slow, and he does not have a very good understanding of how to read defenses. He is a talent, but much too young, inexperienced, and not coached enough to play well in Game 1 of his collegiate career, especially against our defense. I like our chances of dominating his throwing game.

Like I said, he could be eventually coached into a real NFL talent, but as of right now, he is not ready to start in a college game. Way too slow mentally, does a terrible job reading defenses, and has awful eye discipline, telegraphing who he is throwing to way before he throws the ball.

 
With the Oline and Dline we are suppose to have, unc should be NO problem. I do think we want to get out to a quick lead with some punishment added in for their QB then that should be that. 

 
 He is a talent, but much too young, inexperienced, and not coached enough to play well in Game 1 of his collegiate career, especially against our defense. I like our chances of dominating his throwing game.

Like I said, he could be eventually coached into a real NFL talent, but as of right now, he is not ready to start in a college game. Way too slow mentally, does a terrible job reading defenses, and has awful eye discipline, telegraphing who he is throwing to way before he throws the ball.


All of that works for me.

I'd like to get some breaks this year for a change, after feeling snakebit all of last year.

 
From "Inside Carolina " by Greg Barnes

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. -- North Carolina will be without three of its most experienced defenders due to suspension for at least one half of its season opener against South Carolina on Saturday.

Linebacker Dominique Ross and cornerback Patrice Rene will have to sit out a half due to their role in an altercation at the end of UNC’s loss to N.C. State in the 2018 season finale. The ACC announced the suspensions along with public reprimands two days after the game for seven total players, including four Tar Heels

 
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