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Carolina Memories: Gone But Not Forgotten

Papa Jazz is still there; bought some LPs from them last year.  You had to make a reservation because of Covid.

They carry a small selection of new vinyl LP pressings for both old and new musical acts.

The place is like being inside a time warp once you get inside the store.
I used to head into Papa Jazz every spring and sell him enough of my LPs to get enough gas money to make it back to Delaware. Sad how much great music I let go of.

 
Next time I in Columbia, I will have to check out Papa Jazz.  I have not been in there in ages. 
I went on a Saturday and was not able to find a parking place in Five Points and had to park in a metered space on Greene St. up the hill past the railroad tracks going towards campus.

Got kinda nostalgic after purposely taking the cross-streets off the beaten path back to Elmwood on the way home.

 
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Another place that used to have some good bands come through. 
Elbow Room was also known as Monterrey Jack's back in the late 1980s.  One of the owners of Monterrey Jack's was someone that stayed on the same floor of Douglas as me.

I saw the pic for the same address for Monterrey Jack's and noticed the distinctive entrances and then I put the two places together. 

I didn't read the stuff on the Columbia closing site about the location until tonight.

Here are the previous names of the establishments that have been at that location:  Dodd's 5 & 10 / Von Henmon's / Monterrey Jack's / Agave / Hannah Jane's / Nacho Mamma's / 5 Points Pub, 733 Santee Avenue & 2020 Devine Street: 1990s

http://columbiaclosings.com/wordpress/?p=243

It was a punk music club when it was Von Henmon's in the late 1970s and early 1980s and The Ramones played there. R.E.M. played there three times; the last time was right as they were making it big.  

Von Henmon's was just one space with entrances like in Spur's pic on Santee Avenue, but the next owners opened up the space for the Mexican restaurant side also at 2020 Devine and both entrances adjoined Yesterdays on the corner.  Not sure if that was the same setup when it was Elbow Room or not since I never had the pleasure of going there then.

Monterrey Jack's was an Americanized Mexican restaurant on Santee Avenue behind Yesterday's. Actually that's a bit inaccurate: While Santee was the "main" entrance, there was also an entrance on Devine Street. The main entrance debauched into the bar area while the "back" entrance led into the non-smoking section.

It was also the case that, even if you were a non-smoker, you wanted to sit in the bar area since a) the waitstaff actually checked those tables from time to time, b) the lighting and decor were much better, and c) the bar had possibly the largest CD collection of any Columbia restaurant, and the music there was always interesting.
I am not sure when Monterrey Jack's closed, but most record catalogs didn't start to be released on CD until after The Beatles stuff came out in the early 1990s.  I believe MJ's music collection was probably all vinyl back then.  I used to go there regularly for the music and fluids after getting off work when I lived near there in the Harden St. area for a while.

I remember amazing all the much younger (for me at least) student patrons one night in the late 80s when I ordered a pitcher of Electric Lemonade.  It was the same light blue color as Gatorade Frost, which wasn't around back then, so I assume it was just food coloring but I don't know.  Everyone asked me in amazement what it was and then proceeded to order their own pitcher to try it out.  My contribution to Gamecock student culture.  LOL

I saw someone comment online that they didn't know the club Hannah Jane's was the inspiration for the Hootie song, but I think they may have gotten that backwards from a timing standpoint.  It is, however, a good excuse to post the song in tribute.

RIP Von Denmon's/Monterrey Jack's/Hannah Jane's



 
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9 hours ago, kingofnerf said:

Elbow Room was also known as Monterrey Jack's back in the late 1980s.  One of the owners of Monterrey Jack's was someone that stayed on the same floor of Douglas as me.

I saw the pic for the same address for Monterrey Jack's and noticed the distinctive entrances and then I put the two places together. 

I didn't read the stuff on the Columbia closing site about the location until tonight.

Here are the previous names of the establishments that have been at that location:  Dodd's 5 & 10 / Von Henmon's / Monterrey Jack's / Agave / Hannah Jane's / Nacho Mamma's / 5 Points Pub, 733 Santee Avenue & 2020 Devine Street: 1990s

http://columbiaclosings.com/wordpress/?p=243

It was a punk music club when it was Von Henmon's in the late 1970s and early 1980s and The Ramones played there. R.E.M. played there three times; the last time was right as they were making it big.  

Von Henmon's was just one space with entrances like in Spur's pic on Santee Avenue, but the next owners opened up the space for the Mexican restaurant side also at 2020 Devine and both entrances adjoined Yesterdays on the corner.  Not sure if that was the same setup when it was Elbow Room or not since I never had the pleasure of going there then.

I am not sure when Monterrey Jack's closed, but most record catalogs didn't start to be released on CD until after The Beatles stuff came out in the early 1990s.  I believe MJ's music collection was probably all vinyl back then.  I used to go there regularly for the music and fluids after getting off work when I lived near there in the Harden St. area for a while.

I remember amazing all the much younger (for me at least) student patrons one night in the late 80s when I ordered a pitcher of Electric Lemonade.  It was the same light blue color as Gatorade Frost, which wasn't around back then, so I assume it was just food coloring but I don't know.  Everyone asked me in amazement what it was and then proceeded to order their own pitcher to try it out.  My contribution to Gamecock student culture.  LOL

I saw someone comment online that they didn't know the club Hannah Jane's was the inspiration for the Hootie song, but I think they may have gotten that backwards from a timing standpoint.  It is, however, a good excuse to post the song in tribute.

RIP Von Denmon's/Monterrey Jack's/Hannah Jane's

That's interesting. The Elbow room I remember was located on Harden, One or two places up from Group Therapy. That was in the 90's. I do remember Monterey jacks on Saluda. 

 
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That's interesting. The Elbow room I remember was located on Harden, One or two places up rom Group Therapy. That was in the 90's. I do remember Monterey jacks on Saluda. 
Someone on the closings website for Elbow Room also mentioned the original one on Harden as well.

They also said that the Elbow Room owners gutted the interior of the space that was originally set up by the Monterrey Jack's folks.

So I guess they moved into that space eventually.

 
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The Manifest music store out at Boozer Shopping Center closed a few years ago.

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Apparently the one in Charlotte is still open.

https://www.facebook.com/ManifestCharlotte/

The 2nd and Charles second-hand store out by Columbiana Mall is always packed every time I have been there the past few years, even during Covid.  They have old music, but also sell old books and video games among other things.

It makes you wonder if Manifest could have survived if they branched out past music and sold other types used goods like 2nd and Charles does now.

 
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The Manifest music store out at Boozer Shopping Center closed a few years ago.



Apparently the one in Charlotte is still open.

https://www.facebook.com/ManifestCharlotte/

The 2nd and Charles second-hand store out by Columbiana Mall is always packed every time I have been there the past few years, even during Covid.  They have old music, but also sell old books and video games among other things.

It makes you wonder if Manifest could have survived if they branched out past music and sold other types used goods like 2nd and Charles does now.
Was that the old Peaches?

 
Another one we haven't talked about yet is The Golden Spur and the adjacent Ballroom on the second floor in Russell House. Couldn't find any old pix online, sadly.  The Golden Spur was USC's own bar, believe it or not for the younger folks. I think its last year was 1983-84, my first year? The year before I got there, my wife, then a frosh, saw The Police there. As the drinking age climbed, the university shut it down.

 
Ah, the Golden Spur!  in the mid 70s they had a deal where you could buy a ceramic mug for $5. They numbered your mug and kept it on the wall behind the bar.  You got one free draft beer in it every single day.  My number was oo.  At the end of the year you got to keep your mug.

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I remember people talking about The Police playing at the Spur after they got their big break.  The Airband competitions at the Spur were pretty popular back in early 1980s when MTV was in full force.

Then there was Twilite on Rosewood. (below)

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I think I maybe went to Twilite once with some friends who knew where it was.

Also, Crazy Zack's was in the old train station that has since become California Dreaming when I was a Freshman.  I remember seeing and hearing the crowds at Zack's, but I knew absolutely no one in Douglas or anywhere else on campus back then and was too shy to go down there.  It really took a whole year to get to know enough people as a Freshman so you could do something other than live in the library studying all the time.  That's one reason why fraternities, sororities and other student organizations are so popular.

From what I understand, California Dreaming moved into the train station (where it still is today) after Zack's moved into this building on Harden.

Group was the only club I ever went to on that side of Harden St.

 
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Another one we haven't talked about yet is The Golden Spur and the adjacent Ballroom on the second floor in Russell House. Couldn't find any old pix online, sadly.  The Golden Spur was USC's own bar, believe it or not for the younger folks. I think its last year was 1983-84, my first year? The year before I got there, my wife, then a frosh, saw The Police there. As the drinking age climbed, the university shut it down.
For some reason, I thought the University simply remodeled the space to be a student meeting room after the bar closed but still called the room the Golden Spur, but I don't really remember.

 
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I remember the Spur hosted a party to celebrate the last episode of M*A*S*H, which aired on February 28, 1983.

There were lots of parties on campus for that one and that's where I met and made some new friends.  There may have been other watch parties there for the preceding last remaining episodes, but I can't remember.

 
The Manifest music store out at Boozer Shopping Center closed a few years ago.



Apparently the one in Charlotte is still open.

https://www.facebook.com/ManifestCharlotte/

The 2nd and Charles second-hand store out by Columbiana Mall is always packed every time I have been there the past few years, even during Covid.  They have old music, but also sell old books and video games among other things.

It makes you wonder if Manifest could have survived if they branched out past music and sold other types used goods like 2nd and Charles does now.
Manifest closing really hurt my heart. I would go in there about every 2-3 weeks and find some gems...some new, some used. Loved that store.

I've shopped 2nd and Charles a couple times, but find their selections really limited when compared to Manifest.

 
I would also add the old Circuit City store at 1950 Bush River Rd.

http://columbiaclosings.com/wordpress/?p=134

Before Circuit City eventually became the big box retailer that went under, their stores before then were much smaller and their salespeople were base + commission.  People have different opinions about that business model, but it did actually work.  

I believe Hamrick's has since moved there from it's former Outlet Pointe location.

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