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Georgia Fans already turning on Kirby Smart

You know, I think there is more legitimacy to UGA fans being upset at coaches compared to our fans being upset with Muschamp.

Watching this video, the guy makes a good point early on. There is no greater correlation in college football than recruiting and success. When you finish with top 3 recruiting classes the past 4 years in a row, big wins, championships, and consistent playoff bids are the expectation. You have THE most talented roster in America bar none. 

When our fans get upset with Muschamp, we remember that our recruiting is not at the same level as UGA, Clemson, or Alabama. We typically finish at around 20th in the recruiting rankings. We're a team that's been slowly but surely rebuilding over the past 4 seasons. There's more room for error, and not every bad play or loss comes down to coaching in of itself.

With Georgia though, Kirby came into the HC position with already elite talent. The cupboard was full, compared to Muschamp's being bare, and he immediately took off and found major success with it. Not only this, UGA continued to recruit the best players in the country. Their entire roster is full of the best talent in America.

There is no excuse to lose this game against the Gamecocks. South Carolina came into the game underrated, more focused, and more prepared. Our talent level isn't where UGA's is, but it's close enough so that we were able to win so long as we gave more effort than them. And we did. 


Agree with this. UGA fans have been looking at a lot of conference programs over the years that they have recruited comparatively with, but who have realized much more success than they have. Most SEC fans think that Florida was never a powerhouse recruiting program under Spurrier, where they consistently pulled #1 classes every cycle. But they DID pull a number of #1 classes under Spurrier just the same, and regularly pulled top 10 national classes most cycles. This was when the prep FB talent in FL blew up in the 80s and into the 90s, so it was hard for a FL program to not pull that kind of talent.

And UF under Spurrier started winning SEC titles regularly, played in 2 MNC games, winning one of them. And owned UGA while he was there, too. UGA wasn't doing much worse in recruiting than UF was, but wanted more to stay competitive against their rivals. In comes Richt: he doesn't do much better against UF than his predecessors, but he does win two SEC titles, thanks in large part to Spurrier leaving for the NFL, and Fulmer's Tennessee fading after his/their 1998 MNC.

But then during the Richt Era at UGA, Florida returns to prominence under Urban Meyer, who wins 2 MNC titles. LSU, Alabama, and Auburn all rise up as well with titles of their own plus multiple appearances. The prep talent in the state of GA was rising with every year, until it took GA among the giants of CA, TX, and FL. And Richt's UGA regularly brought in top 10 classes - much like how Spurrier did at UF. But the best Richt could do was win two SEC conference titles, the last one in 2005, and three BCS bowls, the last one in 2007. 2007 was essentially the end of the best and most consistent years at UGA under Richt - he coached there until 2016. So the fans felt that he had gotten fat and complacent.

UGA's recruiting class rankings since 2005 have not been at Alabama's level, but they were most definitely very similar to Florida's, LSU's, and Auburn's levels, if not slightly better than Auburn's. During that time span, Florida has 6 division titles, 2 SECCG titles in 4 appearances, 2 BCS bowl appearances with one win, and 2 MNC championships. LSU has 3 division titles, 2 SECCG titles in 3 appearances, 2 BCS appearances winning both, and 2 MNC appearances with one championship. Auburn has 4 division titles, 2 SECCG titles in 3 appearances, 2 BCS bowl appearances, and 2 MNC appearances with one championship.

UGA has 6 division titles, 2 SECCG titles in 5 appearances, 4 BCS bowl appearances with 2 wins (1 appearance - a win - was Round 1 of the 2017 CFP), and one CFP appearance where UGA was a finalist. The big difference between all the above 4 SEC programs is that the first 3 all have national championship trophies, and UGA does not, and the Bulldog fans are gnashing their teeth.......

Also agree with your comparison between Muschamp and Smart, and USC and UGA. Smart was really an opportunist in his first job as a Head Coach - he passed over several lesser opportunities as DC under Saban at Alabama. Under Richt in his final 2 years at UGA, the Bulldog program pulled in the 6th and 8th ranked classes for 2014 & 2015, and those teams each won 10 games those seasons. Muschamp took over a Gamecock program that pulled classes closer to the 20's than the 10's in ranking, and went 10-15 the final 2 seasons under Spurrier. Plus, while Smart took over the top GA program in a state that's rich in prep talent - when GA Tech ran an unorthodox offense that called for "special" talent skill-sets - Muschamp took over a SC program that was sharing a state that had a small population with a Clemson program entering the golden era of its entire history....

 
I am still taking things one game at a time, but I am hoping to see a similar reaction in Pickens County on 12-1-2019.

 
Kirby has recruited better and had better results than Richt. The fans are over-reacting to a bad loss - kinda like we do.
This is all I could think of too...that Georgia apparently has just as many totally unrealistic and wildly fragile fans who probably should have played some kind of organized team sport as a kid as we do.

 
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On 10/13/2019 at 9:46 PM, Schark said:

Social media is an UGA meltdown goldmine right now.

I have no idea who this UGA superfan is however the guy does make rational commentary during the game. Credit where credit is due. Then they lose.

He takes his time to walk downstairs, demanding that UGA OC James Coley be immediately fired, and then proceeds to destroys a brand new TV he had just purchased, not yet installed, for his "UGA Fan Studio." 

It's long but there's some gold in there if you dig around for it...

or skip to 45:40 and watch him get ugly on his TV...

or 46:57 when his wife start hollering about the hedges being torn up.

I would love to know where these people got the idea that being an embarrassing clown with the fortitude of a wet tissue makes you a 'superfan'. This kind of behavior is nothing but a show of laughable weakness...made all the more curious by the fact he thought posting this online was a good idea.

 
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Yeah it was a bad loss but I think UGA fans are overreacting.  UGA coasted through their first few games and didn't throw the ball much.  And it come back to haunt them.  They weren't balanced and when the pressure was on, they didn't come through.

UGA has achieved a national championship game appearance under Smart.  They have 5 stars everywhere.  Sure, it looked bad but it should be a wake up call for UGA's offense.  If they go 11-1, then everything will be fine. 

They have to learn from this loss and step back and see what they should have been doing all along - developing a more balanced offense and working on the passing game.  Fromm came into this game with 3 TDs.  Obviously, they weren't ready to throw the ball if the running game wasn't there.  They were too one dimensional and it cost them.  Their defense played well enough to win.  The offense didn't.

 
On 10/13/2019 at 6:46 PM, Schark said:

Social media is an UGA meltdown goldmine right now.

I have no idea who this UGA superfan is however the guy does make rational commentary during the game. Credit where credit is due. Then they lose.

He takes his time to walk downstairs, demanding that UGA OC James Coley be immediately fired, and then proceeds to destroys a brand new TV he had just purchased, not yet installed, for his "UGA Fan Studio." 

It's long but there's some gold in there if you dig around for it...

or skip to 45:40 and watch him get ugly on his TV...

or 46:57 when his wife start hollering about the hedges being torn up.

I am not sure what is more embarrassing, the fact we won the game against Georgia, or that they think it is embarrassing to lose to us? lol

 
On 10/13/2019 at 9:46 PM, Schark said:

Social media is an UGA meltdown goldmine right now.

I have no idea who this UGA superfan is however the guy does make rational commentary during the game. Credit where credit is due. Then they lose.

He takes his time to walk downstairs, demanding that UGA OC James Coley be immediately fired, and then proceeds to destroys a brand new TV he had just purchased, not yet installed, for his "UGA Fan Studio." 

It's long but there's some gold in there if you dig around for it...

or skip to 45:40 and watch him get ugly on his TV...

or 46:57 when his wife start hollering about the hedges being torn up.

That look says mentally unstable.

Don't drive in Georgia this week.  You'll pass this guy on the road and he'll try to kill you.

 
Even poor little Ugga is speaking his mind.

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If the First Dawg says it, it must be true.

 
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