Notre Dame is a big 10 school in geographics, academics and Athletics, that, IMO would be a no brainer.
And a big bird to the All Cupcakes Conference.
And a big bird to the All Cupcakes Conference.
Last edited by a moderator:
Gamecock Fanatics
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Super Conferences?
- Thread starter B_Amazing
- Start date
LOL: If I had a dollar every time someone posted 'done deal' on a sports internet message board, I could retire.
I’m sorry, but I can’t believe anything he ever says. He uses the “what about the players” line, which is as much of a crock as when you hear people say @what about the children”, it’s always a veiled excuse for what someone wants.
Basically, he is complaining about having to play more than one tough opponent in a row, which is what happens in the SEC week in and week out. Dabo’s concern in playoff expansion is that there is a greater chance Clemson will be exposed. They play weak opponents all season, so they typically don’t have injury issues like teams who play a real schedule. The more good teams they play means more potential for injury and playing strictly off emotion, hype and snake oil won’t last when you keep getting punched in the mouth for several weeks in a row.
Even Mike Leach, who has advocated a 64-team play-off in the past, says it's best to let the dust settle on CFP expansion. Good insights on the CFPs, NIL and transfer portal at 11:00.
I have spent the last two days listening to podcast on YouTube. I have come to the following conclusion; some are very good, some are very bad, some are just OK and some are just plain stupid. So lets just focus on the very good ones ( most have multiple host). There seems to be a thread running through some of these podcast that the $EC is just getting started and in time will be a 20 team national conference. Me not sure? The four additional teams that keep popping up with these guys are Ohio St, Michigan, Clemson and Florida St. Again?
Also discussed was Roy Crammers gentleman's agreement that each school could vote out an instate competitor. All believe that no longer applies.
As all this transitions how are all these games going to find TV time? The dreaded noon kickoff will have to remain, then the 3PM slot, the 7 PM slot and a West coast game at 9pm. Rumor is that CBS is back at the table on the 3PM game.
The other big questions is broadcasting all these games in order to get the revenue needed. Let's not forget there are lots of other conferences (for a while) out there, games to be played. Most think it will take some cable channels like TBS in the old days and some of the streaming service will also have to pickup a few as well. If the $EC is thinking national the SEC network won't work for places not the footprint, thoughts are it will handle only $EC conference games.
One last thing if we go to 16 most felt the money for each school would be way north of 60M and it it were to go to 20 teams, well nor one would speculate how high is high.
OK thoughts, please
Also discussed was Roy Crammers gentleman's agreement that each school could vote out an instate competitor. All believe that no longer applies.
As all this transitions how are all these games going to find TV time? The dreaded noon kickoff will have to remain, then the 3PM slot, the 7 PM slot and a West coast game at 9pm. Rumor is that CBS is back at the table on the 3PM game.
The other big questions is broadcasting all these games in order to get the revenue needed. Let's not forget there are lots of other conferences (for a while) out there, games to be played. Most think it will take some cable channels like TBS in the old days and some of the streaming service will also have to pickup a few as well. If the $EC is thinking national the SEC network won't work for places not the footprint, thoughts are it will handle only $EC conference games.
One last thing if we go to 16 most felt the money for each school would be way north of 60M and it it were to go to 20 teams, well nor one would speculate how high is high.
OK thoughts, please
Last edited by a moderator:
The trend of players skipping bowl games ahead of prepping for the NFL is already out there.
I could see players skipping some regular season games as well if the regular season is extended.
The only alternative would be to eliminate some cupcake games on the regular season schedule to handle the expansion.
Is all this discussion of changing conferences really just about trying to have a shot at the CFPs, which may expand as well and make league expansion a moot point.
What about increased travel distances for the fan bases?
I could see players skipping some regular season games as well if the regular season is extended.
The only alternative would be to eliminate some cupcake games on the regular season schedule to handle the expansion.
Is all this discussion of changing conferences really just about trying to have a shot at the CFPs, which may expand as well and make league expansion a moot point.
What about increased travel distances for the fan bases?
Last edited by a moderator:
I thought this scenario was kind of cool. It would be good for us.
Maybe football goes the way of other sports and starts having preseason games with the likes of Citadel and Wofford, those schools still get a payoff and some publicity... I think the whole thing is teetering on a ledge, once you allowed players to be paid, all of this is new territory and with change comes... Without a doubt college football and athletics as a whole is about to have a huge facelift!
Feel bad for fans of teams like Colorado State, Boise State, BYU, Coastal, etc. ... outside looking in.
We already have that. Both Jaycee Horn and Israel Mukuamu did that for us last season. Sure they came up with "good reasons" later, but we all know the real reason behind it (Muschamp fired). Either way though, nothing would have stopped them from sitting out just to solely focus on the draft.
As for the other stuff, I have no problem with jettisoning the cupcake games. As far as I am concerned, no Power 5 team has any business playing anyone outside of the Power 5. I mean sure if we had pre-season games like was previously mentioned, that would be cool. Otherwise any game against the lower tier teams does nothing for a team in the SEC. If we win, then it's expected that we win. No kudos for that. If we lose, though, then it is the sign of a program in decline, and all of the "job well dones" goes to the smaller school. It is a lose-lose situation, and we should not accept that.
The CFP, and even the BCS before it, has established that there is not enough room on the stage for 125 teams in Division 1, all competing for the same championship. I mean CCU ran the table last year in NCAA Div 1, and only got invited to the Cure Bowl... at Camping World Stadium... on December 26... where they lost to Liberty University. You cannot tell me that they belong in the same league as Alabama.
No. Nobody can tell me with honesty that it makes sense to be playing The Citadel or even Appalachian State when we're trying to win titles in a league like the SEC, where the likes of Alabama and Florida and Tennessee and LSU are winning national titles.
The answer for all of this is a smaller stage with a fewer number of teams able to compete for these titles. If it means condensing them into a smaller number of conferences, then so be it. Once all of this conference re-alignment is done, for a time, then what should remain is a set of 5 conferences with 16 teams each. 80 teams, all fighting for the same goal., each with an equal opportunity of reaching the ultimate goal.
I agree with you about the cupcake games. It’s absolutely absurd for an FBS team to play and FCS team, or whatever names they go by now.
I don’t understand why OK wants to come to the SEC. I get that it’s about making more money in the league, but this will greatly hinder their pretty much yearly shot at the playoff. They play a tougher schedule than Clemson, but it’s the same, basic formula.
The bigger these conferences get the more you will have to rely on a paid service to watch the games as there will not be enough time slots for SEC games on regular networks. I think in the end the schools are looking to cash in and championships become secondary.
Last edited by a moderator:
I would put Notre Dame in the same group as CCU. The Irish have been an embarrassment every time they have gotten to the BCS/CFPs. They're just a name and an NBC Saturday TV show. LOL
Looks like the wheels are in motion. Texas and Oklahoma have declared their intent to leave for the SEC.
https://www.hookem.com/story/sports/football/2021/07/26/college-athletics-texas-starts-process-leave-big-12-join-sec/8090342002/
https://www.hookem.com/story/sports/football/2021/07/26/college-athletics-texas-starts-process-leave-big-12-join-sec/8090342002/