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USC @ TENNESSEE
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it speaks volumes that if we ranked the college basketball coaches just in the state of SC that our coach is probably no better than 5th...I would take Miller from UNC-G, Richey from Furman, and maybe John Scheyer from Duke (just to name a few)
well, I can remember when we got an guy named Horn , just asking I really could not say right now, I just agree that something maybe need to be looked at somehow I ,mean we've been trying to find an coach snice we only had Bobby C . for an day without an contract. South Carolina men's basketball in this state is too good to let the talent out every year. Maybe Kentucky fires their guy, we could try and get him here.
We had tubby here at one time , let him walk away I'm just saying what the hell are we doing on men's basketball.
Ok Right now watched the O.S.U. game vs TEXAS TECH CALL Mike Boykin , see if he would be interested being the Head Coach at South Carolina now is the time, he's buyout is not that bad, Watch South Carolina will let another gem slip thru their hands, just like Bobby C, done back I the day I see it COMMING.
doublea1971
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Be careful Bear...
I like Mike (quite a bit. And have had my eyes on him for a few seasons now), but he's got the benefit of having one of the most naturally gifted athletes in the entire country on his team. (Who he did not personally recruit initially, by the way). Cade Cunningham would make even the worst of coaches look pretty impressive (averaging 18+ PPG).
I will admit, that Boynton's last few recruiting classes have put him in pretty good circumstances. He has 5 players averaging just under 10 PPG, and then Cade Cunningham with his skillset, leading the team w/ 18+ PPG. But remember, OSU has been hit by the NCAA with sanctions AND Cade Cunningham stayed with the team mostly because he has family on the staff... Cannen Cunningham.
Boynton's records since taking over at OSU...
- 21-15 (8-10 conference) in 2017-18
- 12-20 (5-13 conference) in 2018-19
- 18-14 (7-11 conference) in 2019-20
I would give him 2 more years to see how he pans out at OSU. If he is able to stabilize the ship and continue to recruit well (which the NCAA sanctions may make difficult), THEN I would consider looking at him. That's actually a realistic timeline for Frank Martin anyway. Frank has the final couple of years on his contract. With this year being such an anomaly, Frank himself may turn things around significantly and this will all be a moot point. Nonetheless... I'd say give Mike Boynton a couple more years to showcase whether he's a "one hit wonder" coach, or whether he puts OSU back in the drivers seat for NCAA appearances (like their Eddie Sutton or Travis Ford days). The main telling point for him will be how they perform over the next 2-3 years within the Big 12. OSU has absolutely NO sustained history of winning in the Big 12 - Since 2008, they have finished better than 4th place TWICE, and no higher than 3rd in conference at all.
His name is Mike Boynton...not Boykin
I could live with Boynton...over Martin anyway. The real coach in that game is Chris Beard at TT. However, it looks like he may end up with the Texas job if they let Shaka Smart go...if that happens we should go after Smart the same day he gets fired.
The guy I really think we should go after is Anthony Grant...former 10 year assistant at UF...VCU/Bama head coach who is now at Dayton. He got fired at Bama with a conference winning percentage almost 85 percentage points higher than Frank Martins is as I type this. More 20 plus wins seasons in his six years there than Martin in his nine. Twice as many tournament appearences. After he left Bama he spent a year in the NBA with OKC and then has been absolutely killing it at Dayton...last year he was the Naismith Coach of the Year, AP National Coach of the Year, Henry Iba Award winner, NABC Coach of the Year, Sporting News Coach of the Year and Atlantic 10 Coach of the Year.
I could live with Anthony Grant, I was not aware of him I do know Dayton is killing it up there I have supported Frank for an long time, but it comes an time when you have to say Thanks Frank we need to go in another direction thanks for you're time here. I even like Shaka Smart , for me I think the time has come to have an African American Black coach at Carolina , I think this is what it's going to take to turn the program around again.
Boynton, O.K. I am ready to go get now, he's young smart and knows how to win and can recruit
I think he would be a good choice as well. However, you have to think that he's going to be at or near the top of the list to replace Roy Williams whenever he retires. I don't think he would do anything to jeopardize that and coming here would be a huge risk for him. As we've seen the last few decades, it's not easy to consistently win here and a few bad years could take him out of the running for what should probably be his dream job.
My perception is that Boynton came in on the tail-end of Lamont Evans' shenanigans his first year at OKST.
Are there still any open NCAA issues with OKST as well?
I would be on the fence about him from that standpoint until the last NCAA issues are settled.
Are there still any open NCAA issues with OKST as well?
I would be on the fence about him from that standpoint until the last NCAA issues are settled.
Evans and Boynton were both assistants for Brad Underwood the year he coached there. Boynton followed Underwood from Stephen F Austin and Underwood hired Evans away from USC. Boynton was elevated to head coach that next summer when Underwood left. Evans was stayed on staff as an assistant after the change. That fall, the FBI case hit.
The NCAA hit OK State with a 1-year postseason ban, 3 years of probation, and reducing the number of scholarships by 3 for 3 years. OK State has appealed, but I don't think a decision has been made on their appeal. Some cbb reporters have said that if no decision is made before the tournament, that OK State will be eligible this year.
So, yeah, there are still unresolved NCAA issues, but Boynton hasn't been accused of anything and infractions committed while he was an assistant shouldn't affect his ability to get another job.
The NCAA hit OK State with a 1-year postseason ban, 3 years of probation, and reducing the number of scholarships by 3 for 3 years. OK State has appealed, but I don't think a decision has been made on their appeal. Some cbb reporters have said that if no decision is made before the tournament, that OK State will be eligible this year.
So, yeah, there are still unresolved NCAA issues, but Boynton hasn't been accused of anything and infractions committed while he was an assistant shouldn't affect his ability to get another job.
Hey, after looking at things I may have jumped the gun on this one, I would be the first to say let's just not make a move just yet, just looking around . I think he's still an good coach just not sure if he could get it done. We need someone who can win big time we have to much talent in this state to let other people come in and just clean up.
I would like to see the next hire win big here. Like I said they have been looking since Bobby stood them up.