I agree. I don’t see the point of it. However, the big plus of Beamer is he is supposed to pull in a great OC and DC. I’m not hanging my hat in any of this, just passing on stuff I heard. It could be utter nonsense.
Gamecock Fanatics
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
What's the deal with Shane Beamer?
- Thread starter Skyhawk96
- Start date
Denny Crane
Member
If Beamer can bring two highly rated coordinators for O and D then I'll jump on board with him in a heartbeat.
I saw this on Twitter last night driving home from my daughter's lacrosse tournament...I haven't checked to see if its 100% true but:
"After some digging. the SEC has hired 17 first-time head coaches since 2000 - 10 of those have been fired, 2 left for a better job and 2 are on current hot seat...Pruitt at UT and Mason at Vandy.
Those coaches are a combined 371-399 overall.
Hiring a candidate with no HC experience is a bad idea."
Not sure if ANY had never even been a Coordinator...like Beamer
Yes Dabo is an exception to that rule...however...Dabo had been on staff at Clemson for over 5 years when he got promoted to interim HC after Tommy Bowden resigned...he also took over a really good Clemson team. The only reason Bowden got canned was because they were ranked 9th in the pre-season polls and were failing to live up to their potential. That being said...no one could have predicted Dabo would turn out to be one of the winningest coaches ever and end up with two national championships...he got that first one 8 years into his run...or 12 years after he started at Clemson...again...he is really the almost singular exception to the rule here.
Can it happen? Sure...but its hard to run the numbers on trying to catch lightning in a bottle like that...from interim to highest paid coach in the history of college athletics.
"After some digging. the SEC has hired 17 first-time head coaches since 2000 - 10 of those have been fired, 2 left for a better job and 2 are on current hot seat...Pruitt at UT and Mason at Vandy.
Those coaches are a combined 371-399 overall.
Hiring a candidate with no HC experience is a bad idea."
Not sure if ANY had never even been a Coordinator...like Beamer
Yes Dabo is an exception to that rule...however...Dabo had been on staff at Clemson for over 5 years when he got promoted to interim HC after Tommy Bowden resigned...he also took over a really good Clemson team. The only reason Bowden got canned was because they were ranked 9th in the pre-season polls and were failing to live up to their potential. That being said...no one could have predicted Dabo would turn out to be one of the winningest coaches ever and end up with two national championships...he got that first one 8 years into his run...or 12 years after he started at Clemson...again...he is really the almost singular exception to the rule here.
Can it happen? Sure...but its hard to run the numbers on trying to catch lightning in a bottle like that...from interim to highest paid coach in the history of college athletics.
Last edited by a moderator:
FurmanCock
Grand Poohbah
Everyone's trying to find the next 'dabo' with going after assistants not experienced HCs. I haven't read enough on Beamer yet to give me optimism and more importantly the program a shot in the arm so to speak.
Heard to talk the other day that VT may also be in the market for a head coach. Would Beamer be more attracted to that job or would he rather not follow his dad's legacy there, that would be really hard to get out from under when it comes to expectations.
Dawn has it figured out. She is not afraid to rip them quite often when they screw up out there and holds them to a very high standard. They respect and fear her just as much as they like her. Seems to me Muschamp only had the like component and some respect, but they were not too concerned if they screwed up. I don't know what personality Beamer would bring, but it seems like players really like him and that is about all I can really ascertain. Kimrey endorsing him is about the only opinion I really put any value in.
Last edited by a moderator:
Sporkgod50
GCF Top Poster
red rooster
Member
Listening to the radio this morning, it sounds like Shane Beamer is the guy. I’m hoping not. I like Freeze or Napier but it sounds like their names are fading.
Beamer, just seems to be an guy that has one foot in the door and 1 foot out the door, we need someone who will stay it's going to take a little bit of work it just seems like another time right now. IT'S starting look like the old Brad Scott days which were really bad .
Yep...that is raw data, but let someone else do the experimenting. We are a dumpster fire right now.
I'll have to run the numbers but that group over the same time frame would include coaches like Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Les Miles, Bobby Petrino, Tommy Tuberville, Ed Orgeron, Lane Kiffin, Hugh Freeze, Mike Leach, Gus Malzahn, etc.
Some good coordinators in there as well...Mark Richt, Kirby Smart, Mark Stoops, Dan Mullin...so far no guys that I can find without at least some coordinator experience
Sporkgod50
GCF Top Poster
Sporkgod50
GCF Top Poster
Boom had already called at Florida and the team got worse the longer he was there. Wwe should've fired him the moment he brought roper with him. I'm not a huge beamer fan but he's got far less red flags than cwm
Sporkgod50
GCF Top Poster
My conclusion was that under five hundred in this league is a failure. Nothing sanity giving people a try
Sporkgod50
GCF Top Poster
I said it at the time. Boom was and is a list of red flags. He was exactly the person here that Florida fired and in between her was a horrible dc at auburn. The question is whether you value an unmerited second chance over a first chance. I'd prefer neither, tbh. Give someone the chance to move up from a lower league. I'm not in favor of one coach from that category over another