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What should our response be if Russia invades Ukraine?

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Blitzkrieg said:

Hopefully this will lead to an end to this madness.
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Putin said all military aid to Ukraine needed to stop for there to be a permanent truce. Neither side really trusts the other now and they are just redeploying and building their weapons stores up.

I would like to be hopeful, but any truce will only will not last too long, just like what is happening in Gaza now. Trump had a great interview with Fox about the call with Putin, but even he acknowledged that "there are a lot of guns pointed at each other right now" and he was only going to get a little headway right now.

Germany has already called the call a flop and Russia has once again struck Ukraine with drones.



I personally think they will try to fight it out one last time when the weather over there improves.
 
Spur's Addiction said:
I deleted a ton of posts from many posters that were totally unrelated to Ukraine. Henry, the owner of the site, made it clear that he does not want politics discussed on his board after he eliminated the "Viewpoint's" forum several years ago. This thread on Ukraine was getting out of hand, so had to rein it in.
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Where is Henry at BTW? He was MIA during a great football season. Is he dead or in a nursing home?
 
Editorial on Russia v Ukraine...at this point it is like walking out and seeing 2 crackheads fighting and trying to pick a side...

www.yahoo.com

Opinion - Sadly, Trump is right on Ukraine

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky provoked wider war by violating peace deals with Russia and seeking NATO military aid and membership, while Joe Biden also contributed crucially to the escalation and perpetuation of fighting by leaving the decision to Zelensky and pledging to respond...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
 
Spur's Addiction said:
Unbelievable. Nearly 1 million just on the Russian side. Just because of Putin ego.
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The article says 250,000, just saying... you think it might have more to do with NATO/US putting bases, weapons closer to Russia and not his ego? You think it could be more complicated than one man's ego?
 
GMB2USC23 said:
The article says 250,000, just saying... you think it might have more to do with NATO/US putting bases, weapons closer to Russia and not his ego? You think it could be more complicated than one man's ego?
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250k dead, 900k dead/ injured.

No I don’t think it was about NATO. If it was he would have attckaed a NaTO country. In fact the Ukraine war caused NATO to expand by admitting Finland and Sweden. So if it was, it backfired.
 
Spur's Addiction said:
No I don’t think it was about NATO.
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NATO was just one of several excuses the Russians used in their land grab. The invasion of Ukraine was just another phase of what already happened to the Crimea and the Donbas (little green men).

This is Russian mob style culture, where they just think they can take what they want.

Putin has no off-ramp. This is his own doing & Russia will never "win" this war at the rate of losses they are taking.
 
JimG said:
NATO was just one of several excuses the Russians used in their land grab. The invasion of Ukraine was just another phase of what already happened to the Crimea and the Donbas (little green men).

This is Russian mob style culture, where they just think they can take what they want.

Putin has no off-ramp. This is his own doing & Russia will never "win" this war at the rate of losses they are taking.
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Yep, Russia has always been an aggressor nation. I believe they wanted to take over Ukraine before they entered NATO (whether they were ever going to or not) and made the decision to invade where the prevailing thought was that they'd take over Ukraine in 2-3 months.

Now 3 years later and casualties approaching 1 million they're still grinding away. I was hoping someone in Putin's inner circle would have taken him out by now.
 
JimG said:
NATO was just one of several excuses the Russians used in their land grab. The invasion of Ukraine was just another phase of what already happened to the Crimea and the Donbas (little green men).

This is Russian mob style culture, where they just think they can take what they want.

Putin has no off-ramp. This is his own doing & Russia will never "win" this war at the rate of losses they are taking.
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So none of that land ever belonged to them and they agreed to terms to allow it to become independent, never in history? At a minimum the Russian people couldn't be convinced folks are encroaching on land they peacefully gave up for terms? It's one dudes ego, not a paper enemy that just wants to live how it wants to live without outside influence? If that many Russians are willing to be casualties for one man's ego, his propaganda is that strong, maybe you are right...
 
GMB2USC23 said:
So none of that land ever belonged to them and they agreed to terms to allow it to become independent, never in history? At a minimum the Russian people couldn't be convinced folks are encroaching on land they peacefully gave up for terms? It's one dudes ego, not a paper enemy that just wants to live how it wants to live without outside influence? If that many Russians are willing to be casualties for one man's ego, his propaganda is that strong, maybe you are right...
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Who was encroaching on Russian Land?
 
GMB2USC23 said:
So none of that land ever belonged to them and they agreed to terms to allow it to become independent, never in history? At a minimum the Russian people couldn't be convinced folks are encroaching on land they peacefully gave up for terms? It's one dudes ego, not a paper enemy that just wants to live how it wants to live without outside influence? If that many Russians are willing to be casualties for one man's ego, his propaganda is that strong, maybe you are right...
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Russians don't have a whole lot of say in the matter.
 
www.newsweek.com

Houthis claim attacks on U.S. aircraft carrier: What we know

The United States said military operations against the Iranian-backed group would continue after President Donald Trump ordered attacks at the weekend.
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From the article: Since 2023, the Houthis have launched over 100 missile and drone attacks on commercial vessels in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden, targeting American and allied ships, according to U.S. officials. The group has previously attacked vessels and launched missiles and drones at Israel, though most have been
 
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