did they invade or did we just let it happen based on some dumb biased referendum in crimea?It's called the Budapest Memo.
Took a while for Russia to break it, but 20 yrs later, Russia invaded the Crimea.
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Putin/Russia calls up 160,000 conscripts
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The "referendum" was held after they sent occupying forces (little green men) into the Crimea.
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It's just a dang mess right now.
Thanks! I couldn't remember the timeline! I can't believe it is still going on! I wonder what the endgame is at this pointThe "referendum" was held after they sent occupying forces (little green men) into the Crimea.
Russian occupation of Crimea - Wikipedia
Agree, best case scenario at his point would be for someone in his inner circle to take him out. Anything else seems unlikely.
Unfortunately, Putin is willing to grind it out for as long as it takes to claim some kind of victory. The drone and missile attacks every night on Ukraine are worse than what the Brits endured with the V-1 & V-2 rockets in WWII.
From what I can read, the Russians have gotten much better at defeating the Ukrainian drone attacks on the front lines. If this fails, parts of Ukraine are at risk to being overrun just because of manpower shortages. Sad.
The last regime change thing did not work out so well with Iran. At least things seemed more stable under the Shah. Seems like the middle east has been in turmoil ever since. I think if there is a regime change it should come at the hands of the Iranian people not something we instigate. We have a long history of bad moves when it comes to this. Looks like Iran now wants to talk, but not sure the Israelis will stop until they know Iran is no longer a nuclear threat.
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Good points, I also find it interesting that no other Mid East nations seem to be that upset with Israel doing this. I suspect that in the inner bowels of discussion in these Governments that they're actually secretly cheering Israel on although they could never publicly admit it.
I agree. I think most people in the middle east just want to live their lives. It is the extreme ideologues that cause the problems.
That's what an Israeli official said in an interview with one of the networks over the weekend.
The middle east has been in turmoil since biblical times.
Also, consider the IAF is actively refueling their fighters over Syrian airspace. That wasn't possible a year ago. That extends their airstrike range considerably.
This conflict is an extension of the ongoing conflicts with Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houtis, and other various Iranian backed groups. Destroying the Iranians capability to make all those rockets & missiles is a big priority.
Israel has Iran on the ropes & there's a lot more damage they can do with airstrikes.
The RF is also a diminished shadow of its former self as well.
I don't disagree and know the biblical history very well, but was making the point that under the Shah there was far less military conflict.
I hope Trump does not get our military directly involved. Israel seems capable of handling this on their own.
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It's very controversial. To be this belligerent towards Iran while turning a blind eye to the daily terror attacks going on in Kiev, Ukraine is a travesty.
Huge amounts of US airpower & support has moved into range of Iran. Iran is the source of many headaches in the Middle East. It would seem most of the western-friendly middle eastern countries would not be upset if Iran took a beating.
Pic: Allegedly picture of USAF assets on the ground in Saudia Arabia/PSAB.
Pic: Allegedly picture of USAF assets on the ground in Saudia Arabia/PSAB.