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Corona virus, the non-asshole thread

kingofnerf said:
The two people I said refused to get the vaccine are female and have two or more children.

I think things get complicated with medical histories and people are just afraid of the symptoms, either from a vaccine side-effect or the virus itself.

Getting the shots are just a tough call for some folks.  I doubt we will get above 75-80% vaccinated for that reason.

I will get the booster when I my age group is allowed to and just hope for the best.  The cases are spiking in SC and the deaths are increasing, too, but the age demographics for deaths are still in the 60+ age groups.

I am going to get back to a personal fitness routine because I need to lose about 30 pounds and I think physical fitness without heavy social interaction is the way to go for right now.

At some point there has to be a push towards health and wellness to reduce the comorbidities that cause people to die as well.
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I totally agree with this.   

 
Our local hospital just set a new pandemic record for its admits over the course of a week. All were unvaccinated. I try to wrap my head around the reasoning to not avail yourself of a free, safe way to not die from something that has killed over 600,000 people in this country alone - let alone spread it to your loved ones before you even show a symptom - but I just fail each time.

I just don't get it.

 
I don't understand it either.  I guess it's a personal choice, but I just have a different feeling about it.  One, I want to protect myself and family.  Two, I personally feel a moral and social obligation to protect my community and country.  Sometimes my personal ideas of freedom don't seem as important as the overall freedom of the greater good in our country.  Personally, I am willing to sacrifice some individual liberties / freedom for the whole.  That's my choice.  I am not putting down those that feel differently, I just struggle to understand.  I feel we are stronger as a group than as 1.  Leaving people behind is not an option for me  I would rather take a few less steps if that means helping those behind catch up and take those steps with me or at least close to me.  Just a personal choice in how I try to live my life.

 
Swayin said:
New study from the CDC reviewing caseloads: the idea that you can't get COVID twice, because you have antibodies, isn't just wrong - the study says you are twice as likely to get reinfected.

Unless you get vaccinated.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm?s_cid=mm7032e1_w

https://www.wreg.com/news/cdc-unvaccinated-more-likely-to-get-covid-19-a-second-time/
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It seems like the new variants are changing the game, daily, weekly, monthly.  For me personally, this is nothing to mess with and I fear we will see things continue to worsen.  Not like before because we do have many people vaccinated. 

 
Malta leading the world with 81% fully vaccinated. 

USA is 3rd highest in the world for # of doses administered.  59% have received a dose and 51% fully vaccinated.

 
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Swayin said:
Our local hospital just set a new pandemic record for its admits over the course of a week. All were unvaccinated. I try to wrap my head around the reasoning to not avail yourself of a free, safe way to not die from something that has killed over 600,000 people in this country alone - let alone spread it to your loved ones before you even show a symptom - but I just fail each time.

I just don't get it.
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I don’t either but I was told the 600k people who died is not a lot by someone. I asked what would it take, a loved one to be hospitalized? She had no answer. People think it can’t happen to them. That and selfish if you ask me

 
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I found this very interesting.  Maybe some that are worried about the long term ramifications of the vaccine would consider this.  https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/08/14/cholesterol-drug-found-to-reduce-coronavirus-infection-by-up-to-70-according-to-new-study/

I think a lot of the people that are still unvaccinated have a worry about long term effects.  I'll be honest I worried about my daughter and while she is vaccinated, I do hope we made the right choice and there are no issues for her later in life, but none of us really know for sure.  When you have news outlets intentionally misleading people on the virus it also contributes to the lack of trust in things.  Before anyone says I am getting political about the news outlets, I am just saying they are all throwing stuff out there without actually researching and reporting the proper way and some are blatantly misleading with what they put out there.  Don't want to get into any pointing fingers at the news outlets, just pointing out they have done all of us a great disservice and and contributing to people not trusting anything about the virus and the vaccination.  

 
Homebrewcock said:
I don't understand it either.  I guess it's a personal choice, but I just have a different feeling about it.  One, I want to protect myself and family.  Two, I personally feel a moral and social obligation to protect my community and country.  Sometimes my personal ideas of freedom don't seem as important as the overall freedom of the greater good in our country.  Personally, I am willing to sacrifice some individual liberties / freedom for the whole.  That's my choice.  I am not putting down those that feel differently, I just struggle to understand.  I feel we are stronger as a group than as 1.  Leaving people behind is not an option for me  I would rather take a few less steps if that means helping those behind catch up and take those steps with me or at least close to me.  Just a personal choice in how I try to live my life.
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well said

 
Longhaul said:
I found this very interesting.  Maybe some that are worried about the long term ramifications of the vaccine would consider this.  https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/08/14/cholesterol-drug-found-to-reduce-coronavirus-infection-by-up-to-70-according-to-new-study/

I think a lot of the people that are still unvaccinated have a worry about long term effects.  I'll be honest I worried about my daughter and while she is vaccinated, I do hope we made the right choice and there are no issues for her later in life, but none of us really know for sure.  When you have news outlets intentionally misleading people on the virus it also contributes to the lack of trust in things.  Before anyone says I am getting political about the news outlets, I am just saying they are all throwing stuff out there without actually researching and reporting the proper way and some are blatantly misleading with what they put out there.  Don't want to get into any pointing fingers at the news outlets, just pointing out they have done all of us a great disservice and and contributing to people not trusting anything about the virus and the vaccination.  
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this goes both ways...as much misleading information I see about he virus I see and equal if not more disinformation about the vaccines...the amount of confirmation bias that I see on a daily basis is a sight to behold...but at the end of the day the virus doesn't give a damn about people's individual opinions and will infect anything it can

 
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STS said:
this goes both ways...as much misleading information I see about he virus I see and equal if not more disinformation about the vaccines...the amount of confirmation bias that I see on a daily basis is a sight to behold...but at the end of the day the virus doesn't give a damn about people's individual opinions and will infect anything it can
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I agree totally.  

 
I have lost my patience with the unvaxxed. My son (unvaxxed because he is 10) is now at risk by going back to school next week. When we sign him up for school,  we have to provide proof that he has been vaxxed for all kinds of traditional diseases. I realize this one is just emergency authorized, but the concept of requiring vaccines is not new, nor somehow a freedom issue. 

And don't get me started on anti-maskers. If all these anti-vax fools were vaccinated, we wouldn't be needing to mask up again. 

 
Spur's Addiction said:
I have lost my patience with the unvaxxed. My son (unvaxxed because he is 10) is now at risk by going back to school next week. When we sign him up for school,  we have to provide proof that he has been vaxxed for all kinds of traditional diseases. I realize this one is just emergency authorized, but the concept of requiring vaccines is not new, nor somehow a freedom issue. 

And don't get me started on anti-maskers. If all these anti-vax fools were vaccinated, we wouldn't be needing to mask up again. 
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I think that things will change once they gain full FDA approval...I watched this special (on some channel back in the fall) that was about the constituitonality of requiring vaccinations and there is constitutional support to require it for the public domain...personally I can't wait 

 
STS said:
I think that things will change once they gain full FDA approval...I watched this special (on some channel back in the fall) that was about the constituitonality of requiring vaccinations and there is constitutional support to require it for the public domain...personally I can't wait 
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Can't come soon enough...

 
Spur's Addiction said:
I have lost my patience with the unvaxxed. My son (unvaxxed because he is 10) is now at risk by going back to school next week. When we sign him up for school,  we have to provide proof that he has been vaxxed for all kinds of traditional diseases. I realize this one is just emergency authorized, but the concept of requiring vaccines is not new, nor somehow a freedom issue. 

And don't get me started on anti-maskers. If all these anti-vax fools were vaccinated, we wouldn't be needing to mask up again. 
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Great post, and I am in exactly the same boat.

 
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