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Shane's staff: Let's fill in the blanks as we go

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I think a ton of this choice had to do with “fit,” as CSB has said in the past. He doesn’t just want a certain kind of coach, he also wants a certain kind of person.

 
Seems like an experienced dc would want some say in his staff. Maybe csb is looking for an under the radar up and comer?

 
Ace Dilcock said:
Yeah, the old Offense/Defense Correlation Principle. Muschamp let that govern his Offensive philosophy, in a bad way. He was hesitant to run a lot of tempo, did not take a lot of deep shots, played conservative (lots of runs) and used the clock to help keep the D off the field.

I thought that we had more identity this past year with Bobo calling the plays. Still conservative with lots of runs, but we knew who we were - a running team - and seemed comfortable with it.  And efficient.

Get Doty more reps and find him a few more receiving threats, and we might have an Offense.
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Yep.

Before Dabo, VaTech and FSU were the standards in ACC football and beyond.

Clemson was an occasional sneeze into the booger rag, but that was about it.

We can all remember the TAMU game a few years ago where it was said jokingly our horrible defense made FR QB Kyler Murray look like a Heisman candidate.  Then he ends up actually winning the Heisman with the same Sooners that Shane is coming to us from.

Getting away from the predictably mediocre Pro-style offense and going towards a Michael Vick-type QB template would instantly make us more competitive in the SEC.

 
Sporkgod50 said:
Seems like an experienced dc would want some say in his staff. Maybe csb is looking for an under the radar up and comer?
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Yes, this is a concern of mine also.  Ultimately all of the staff has to be a fit for the head coach, but you would think a coordinator would want some input on open staffing positions.

 
FurmanCock said:
Yes, this is a concern of mine also.  Ultimately all of the staff has to be a fit for the head coach, but you would think a coordinator would want some input on open staffing positions.
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According to 107.5 it's not going to be Mason.  

 
I keep checking this thread several times a day for updates. But all I see is speculation. At this point I feel like the DC is somehow involved with the NC game (perhaps indirectly with dominos waiting to fall after the NC game.) 

 
I think part of the DC hiring process is that there are more coaching dominoes to fall and potentially big ones - Day and/or Mullen to the NFL?  Who Sarkisian hires at Texas, etc.....  Lots of moving parts.  

 
Spur's Addiction said:
I keep checking this thread several times a day for updates. But all I see is speculation. At this point I feel like the DC is somehow involved with the NC game (perhaps indirectly with dominos waiting to fall after the NC game.) 
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Same. Well either that or we're moving down the list of options past "c"

 
duffcock said:
I think part of the DC hiring process is that there are more coaching dominoes to fall and potentially big ones - Day and/or Mullen to the NFL?  Who Sarkisian hires at Texas, etc.....  Lots of moving parts.  
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Yeah, a ton of jobs like Texas, LSU and Auby have slots to fill ... and maybe UF as well, like you noted. 

Sporkgod50 said:
Same. Well either that or we're moving down the list of options past "c"
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Could be. We just don't have the cachet those top tier jobs have.

 
Ace Dilcock said:
1. Or we could be moving up the list to get our "A" choice....

2. Upon further reflection, I am not as excited about Mason. When someone was talking about "fit", Justin Stepp is the perfect example - a Columbia native that grew up going to games at Willy B.  Young and personable.

Mason would not be excited about being the DC here - he has peaked in his profession and would not give the same effort (IMO, of course) that he gave at Vandy.

3. I would rather get a less experienced DC if we can get a dynamic young coach that has learned from the right people. Especially if it is someone that sees the DC job at South Carolina as a great opportunity.
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1. why would we not start with our "A" choice? I don't get your reasoning there. It's probably because I'm distracted while putting my breast cancer lecture together. Could you help me out?

2. I've never understood this mentality. I'd rather be known as a place where good DCs go to become head coaches than be a place known for preferential hiring of people from SC. I said in another post, this mentality only makes sense for positions that have very low turn over.

3. I'd also love an innovative coach, but you limit yourself if you are biased toward people who grew up fans.

Bottom line: for over a million a year (with the promise of fame, promotions, and raises), I would work hard to make clemson the best football team in the world and I have loved the gamecocks for my entire life. To any professional, a job is a job. Who you grew up cheering for only matters to fans. 

 
Swayin said:
Yeah, a ton of jobs like Texas, LSU and Auby have slots to fill ... and maybe UF as well, like you noted. 

Could be. We just don't have the cachet those top tier jobs have.
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I hope not, but CWM really set us back. Still I don't think he pissed away everything that spurrier built.

 
Sporkgod50 said:
I hope not, but CWM really set us back. Still I don't think he pissed away everything that spurrier built.
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Facilities are excellent. That's probably the main reason recruiting as been decent through the years. 

 
Sporkgod50 said:
I hope not, but CWM really set us back. Still I don't think he pissed away everything that spurrier built.
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I agree with this statement.  However, none of us are in the coaching circles.  I would think that just like other jobs, or work circles, people know who is good to work with, and who you want to avoid.  My impression, FWIW, is that Shane Beamer is highly thought of, and being a new head coach, so he won't be getting fired for at least 3-4 years, his character, and Spurrier proving that winning can happen here, should all be reasons other good coaches would want to come here.

 
JimG said:
Facilities are excellent. That's probably the main reason recruiting as been decent through the years. 
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agreed. for all the ill will that SOS generated in his last two years, the man built things here that will last for at least a generation. I'll always be grateful of that. 

 
Cockyandproud said:
I agree with this statement.  However, none of us are in the coaching circles.  I would think that just like other jobs, or work circles, people know who is good to work with, and who you want to avoid.  My impression, FWIW, is that Shane Beamer is highly thought of, and being a new head coach, so he won't be getting fired for at least 3-4 years, his character, and Spurrier proving that winning can happen here, should all be reasons other good coaches would want to come here.
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That is true. I think fan bases also have a big role in how attractive a coaching job is. SC has fans that love a winner, but also have fans that will walk out at half time. When I try for an objective evaluation of our fan bases, it always comes out as a bit of a mixed bag TBH. (at times wonderful. often unrealistically positive. at times not so great.)

 
Sporkgod50 said:
1. why would we not start with our "A" choice? I don't get your reasoning there. It's probably because I'm distracted while putting my breast cancer lecture together. Could you help me out?

2. I've never understood this mentality. I'd rather be known as a place where good DCs go to become head coaches than be a place known for preferential hiring of people from SC. I said in another post, this mentality only makes sense for positions that have very low turn over.

3. I'd also love an innovative coach, but you limit yourself if you are biased toward people who grew up fans.

Bottom line: for over a million a year (with the promise of fame, promotions, and raises), I would work hard to make clemson the best football team in the world and I have loved the gamecocks for my entire life. To any professional, a job is a job. Who you grew up cheering for only matters to fans. 
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You make way too much sense and seems to get it. Good post.

 
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