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What should our response be if Russia invades Ukraine?

How do you explain the RU not having enough forces to overrun the Ukrainians? Those numbers you posted aren't being realized on the battlefield.
Check this out....from a RU guy:

Well according to Wiki they have those numbers. That doesn't mean they can just send in waves of troops. There biggest problem IMO (from what I've read) is that the Russians are having logistical problems. If you can't feed and supply 100k soldiers there's no point in sending in more that you can't support.

In the US Army we figure it takes 6 support soldiers to supply 1 soldier in combat. It is amazingly costly and complicated. You have to literally supply these forces with hundreds of different items.

The Russians may figure they only need a 4 or 5 ratio, I don't know. Having been involved in numerous large operations I can tell you that supplying a fighting force in the field is a daunting task. Think of Williams Brice stadium 80k and CLA 18k being filled with 98k people and just the task of supplying them with 3 meals a day and (on average) a gallon of water each per day for weeks on end.

Now add to that spare parts, fuel, ammo, medical supplies, replacement vehicles, spare tires, troops to deal with the dead and wounded and on and on.
 
Well according to Wiki they have those numbers. That doesn't mean they can just send in waves of troops. There biggest problem IMO (from what I've read) is that the Russians are having logistical problems. If you can't feed and supply 100k soldiers there's no point in sending in more that you can't support.

In the US Army we figure it takes 6 support soldiers to supply 1 soldier in combat. It is amazingly costly and complicated. You have to literally supply these forces with hundreds of different items.

The Russians may figure they only need a 4 or 5 ratio, I don't know. Having been involved in numerous large operations I can tell you that supplying a fighting force in the field is a daunting task. Think of Williams Brice stadium 80k and CLA 18k being filled with 98k people and just the task of supplying them with 3 meals a day and (on average) a gallon of water each per day for weeks on end.

Now add to that spare parts, fuel, ammo, medical supplies, replacement vehicles, spare tires, troops to deal with the dead and wounded and on and on.
This is an interesting interview with Bill Browder,
'Few people know more about Vladimir Putin — and his financial schemes — than Bill Browder. Browder, an investor and a political activist, is the architect of the Magnitsky Act, which allows the US government to sanction foreign nationals who have perpetrated human rights abuses. He joins Preet to discuss his new book, Freezing Order: A True Story of Russian Money Laundering, State-Sponsored Murder, and Surviving Vladimir Putin’s Wrath. '

In here he talks about how most of the money in Russia has been siphoned off in corrupt schemes with the Oligarchs and Putin. How everything, including funding for the military, has been funneled into yachts and mansions for Putin and his cronies. Ammunitions', gasoline, parts, etc. Including soldier salaries. Pretty interesting.

Interview starts at 16:00.
 

The world has been critical of the Russian military's failure, but this report seems to suggest that the extended conflict in Ukraine has exposed some chinks in our armor as well.

According to Heckl, U.S. European Command chief Gen. Tod Wolters asked that the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit and the Kearsarge Amphibious Ready Group “sortie early to be on station as the Ukrainian situation evolved, or devolved. And we were not able to sortie the ship.”

“The way we’ve typically conducted heel-to-toe deployments, the MEU should have been on station and available for combatant commander tasking and it was not,” Heckl said.
 
This is an interesting interview with Bill Browder,
'Few people know more about Vladimir Putin — and his financial schemes — than Bill Browder. Browder, an investor and a political activist, is the architect of the Magnitsky Act, which allows the US government to sanction foreign nationals who have perpetrated human rights abuses. He joins Preet to discuss his new book, Freezing Order: A True Story of Russian Money Laundering, State-Sponsored Murder, and Surviving Vladimir Putin’s Wrath. '

In here he talks about how most of the money in Russia has been siphoned off in corrupt schemes with the Oligarchs and Putin. How everything, including funding for the military, has been funneled into yachts and mansions for Putin and his cronies. Ammunitions', gasoline, parts, etc. Including soldier salaries. Pretty interesting.

Interview starts at 16:00.
It used to be a dacha (cabin) in the woods made from materials used for base refits - now it's a $20m yacht anchored in Ibiza.
 
I had to take a step back this past week to save my sanity, but here are my thoughts at this point:

  • The inland seas surrounding Russia are Russian/Soviet "kill zones" that we need to be wary of.
  • Like Russia, for whatever the reasons, the U.S. is not necessarily ready for an extended conflict, either.
  • With the proper weapons, the Ukrainian military could easily be on the outskirts of Moscow with in a month or so. This is probably the only scenario where I could see Putin using tactical nukes. That's why there needs to be a DMZ to prevent a retaliatory invasion.
  • The world could come to a gigantic, flame-spoutin' end next Thursday afternoon, but I am going to do my best to live a normal life regardless.
 
For those of us who are old enough to remember the old Day of the Dolphin movie.


 
I had to take a step back this past week to save my sanity, but here are my thoughts at this point:

  • The inland seas surrounding Russia are Russian/Soviet "kill zones" that we need to be wary of.
  • Like Russia, for whatever the reasons, the U.S. is not necessarily ready for an extended conflict, either.
  • With the proper weapons, the Ukrainian military could easily be on the outskirts of Moscow with in a month or so. This is probably the only scenario where I could see Putin using tactical nukes. That's why there needs to be a DMZ to prevent a retaliatory invasion.
  • The world could come to a gigantic, flame-spoutin' end next Thursday afternoon, but I am going to do my best to live a normal life regardless.
Friend.....
The USN has the range with weapons/aircraft to fight from long distances. The emergence of China has pushed a lot of this.

The US was in Afghanistan for 20 years and is still in Iraq.

The Ukrainians do not have the force levels/ capability of invading Russia, just as the Russians didn't have the forces to invade Ukraine. That would require an army of 500k+ and includes some kind of active air force. Neither Ukraine or Russia posses the logistics to successfully invade one another.

Nothing you are seeing in this conflict is close to the way the US fights wars. Don't forget the ground war in Desert Storm lasted 100 hrs & that was 31 yrs ago.
We fought an air war for 6 weeks before our ground forces crossed the FLOT into Iraq.
 
Friend.....
The USN has the range with weapons/aircraft to fight from long distances. The emergence of China has pushed a lot of this.

The US was in Afghanistan for 20 years and is still in Iraq.

The Ukrainians do not have the force levels/ capability of invading Russia, just as the Russians didn't have the forces to invade Ukraine. That would require an army of 500k+ and includes some kind of active air force. Neither Ukraine or Russia posses the logistics to successfully invade one another.

Nothing you are seeing in this conflict is close to the way the US fights wars. Don't forget the ground war in Desert Storm lasted 100 hrs & that was 31 yrs ago.
We fought an air war for 6 weeks before our ground forces crossed the FLOT into Iraq.

Not to mention we have the best logistical support and supply system in the world.
 
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