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What should our response be if Russia invades Ukraine?

GMB2USC23 said:
I'm trying to remember if the Nazi's had Nukes... the phrase fuck around and find out comes to mind, No one wants to find out!
Who from NATO has supported starting WWIII?
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On Saturday, the head of NATO’s military committee said Ukraine has the solid legal and military right to strike deep inside Russia to gain combat advantage. Speaking in Prague at the close of the meeting of the alliance's military chiefs, Adm. Rob Bauer of the Netherlands said, “Every nation that is attacked has the right to defend itself. And that right doesn’t stop at the border of your own nation.”

Lt. Gen. Karel Řehka, chief of the General Staff of the Czech Armed Forces, made it clear his nation places no such weapons restrictions on Kyiv.

“We believe that the Ukrainians should decide themselves how to use it,” Řehka said.
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Ukraine being able to capture so much Russian land will eventually affect the entire conflict. And Russia has pulled some troops from Ukraine to go try and get it back, but they are not having much success yet.
Ukraine attacking arms depots deep in Russia will affect the conflict too.
When we attacked Iraq in the Gulf war, they had the absolute best weapons Russia had made. We had no problem destroying Iraq's military then. They had the best MIGs and the best Tanks they had bought from Russia.
Today, I do not think Russia's weapons are all that much better. If they are, why is Ukraine still in it. Using all the modern weapons Ukraine has been getting, they may actually start driving Russia back out. Russia just had time to build such tough defenses, it is not going to happen quick. And apparently, Russia does not care about losing so many troops. They just keep sending untrained boys into battle.
 
kingofnerf said:
I saw one person with apparent Russian ties in the comments of one of the links saying the seismic reading only corresponded to about 3 tons of TNT, which he took that to mean that the drones took out one storage bunker instead of all 240 tons and that was it. Even if that's true, the shock waves would have destroyed most of the rest.

Allowing Ukraine to use long-range missiles to attack Russia's military supply chain could bring an end to the war faster. Russia's economy has been focused on the military for so long, just like Nazi Germany was before WW2.

NATO apparently supports Ukraine's use of long-range ballistic missiles against targets in Russia.
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Great further escalation.
 
Not a fan of them joining NATO. That would obligate us to put boots on the ground or at very least directly involve our military as part of the NATO agreement. Also would just add one more nation we end up paying the lions share for
 
I am tempted to say that the side that fights in winter will be the side that wins, but Hitler's Battle of the Bulge offensive during a record cold winter in WW2 failed.
 
FurmanCock said:
So apparently there are North Korean troops in Russia...training? Are they needed in the Ukraine?
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From the NYT, according to U.S. assessments, Russian casualties in the war so far number as many as 615,000 — 115,000 Russians killed and 500,000 wounded. Apparently if Russia has really lost 600,000 troops (who knows for sure, Putin sure won't admit it) they probably need the North Korean troops to help fill in. I heard the Indians they had fighting had been duped into going and were deserting them.
I just know it is almost daily in the news talking about how many troops Russia is losing.
I wonder how many interpreters they have?
 
AikenGameFan said:
From the NYT, according to U.S. assessments, Russian casualties in the war so far number as many as 615,000 — 115,000 Russians killed and 500,000 wounded. Apparently if Russia has really lost 600,000 troops (who knows for sure, Putin sure won't admit it) they probably need the North Korean troops to help fill in. I heard the Indians they had fighting had been duped into going and were deserting them.
I just know it is almost daily in the news talking about how many troops Russia is losing.
I wonder how many interpreters they have?
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What’s in it for the N Koreans? They are not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.

Is Putin trading nuclear and / or rocket technology and parts / supplies for the troops?
 
Spur's Addiction said:
What’s in it for the N Koreans? They are not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.

Is Putin trading nuclear and / or rocket technology and parts / supplies for the troops?
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It's a win win for NK. If he ends up losing thousands of troops that's X thousand fewer people to feed. Putin's probably paying NK in hard cash and or oil which he desperately needs both.
 

The Russian soldiers talk disdainfully about the incoming North Korean soldiers, codenamed the “K Battalion,” at one point referring to them as “the f**king Chinese.”

In the same extract, a serviceman describes another who has been tasked to “meet people.”

“And he’s like standing there with his eyes out, like… f**k,” the soldier says. “He came here and says what the f**k to do with them.”
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LOL
 
WWIII is upon us, AWESOME!! Tell me again how the comedian of a president in Ukraine not compromising is good for the world, how sending him billions of dollars is good for the world, how Russia wasn't ready for this and Ukraine would end this soon if we sent the support... Tell me what was different about this and Crimea, that we would jeopardize the world, BRILLIANT! That we would publicly fight a proxy war for what? What are we fighting for? We are to believe that Putin got up and decided to attack Ukraine as a start to world domination to bring the USSR back...
 
NKs in Europe might prod NATO into admitting Ukraine as a member.

If things are so bad that Putin has to use a lifeline with NK, then he might as well admit defeat and pull out.
 
GMB2USC23 said:
That's about how every soldier talked about another countries soldier in theater when they showed up, soldiers would talk about a replacement battalion like that... just saying!
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That wasn't my experience at all. I spent 24 years in the Army and the only troops we disparaged were Russian troops in Bosnia.

We worked closely with UK, French, Canadian and Dutch forces in Bosnia and had nothing but respect for all of them as they were very competent and professional.

I was involved in 2 UN operations and 2 REFORGER exercises.
 
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