I don't think they had the best Russian weapons anymore than Ukraine has our best or any other country that thinks they have our best... in fact I know they don't have Russians best because they don't have Nukes or subs or... anyway good story. Don't underestimate your enemy, if that is our enemy your statement is niave at best...
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What should our response be if Russia invades Ukraine?
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I don't disagree with your statement at all when soldiers were in front of each other and not behind closed doors... I spent a good part of my career as a Camp Boss and Civilian Mayor or O&M Manager for NATO/American bases across theatre as well as working high level contracts with high level military personnel and they all talked shit, mad shit about, with respect sometimes and disdain others about incoming or outgoing personnel differences in opinion or ways of doing things or the who, what, when, where and how! Sometimes this happened in private and sometimes in high level meetings, in the ranks it would happen as well because that is usually when it happened in high level meetings! I could fill a book with stories of US, Australia and UK soldiers telling me how useless Iraq and Afgahnistan soldiers they were trying to train were...
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Looks like Putin's strategy will work out for him. Grind it out until the US election with the hopes that a change in administration will weaken the west's support for Ukraine.
Based on what? Are you suggesting he will get what he wants once Trump is in office?
Based on Trumps' position and stance on Ukraine and NATO during his first term. I could be wrong.
But I do think that's what Putin was counting on.
Putin Plays Tough In His Opening Message to Trump
"The message is, if you want a deal, you’re going to crawl on your knees for it."
This ain't 2019. Putin is all in.
Yup.
I think that at least we will talk to Putin now which has not been done. We will never have a resolution if conversations do not take place. I will choose to wait and see how it plays out. I don't know that Trump will do better, but what we were doing was not working.
That's his strategy, what was his strategy while Trump was President?
What does he want?
Europe needs to step up. This is not our war. I don't have a problem helping Ukraine to a point but Europe needs to be carrying the lion's share of support.
Same, but we also don't want intact F-16s and superior Leopard tanks easily falling into Russian hands, either. Pretty sticky in some ways.
There are always back channel discussions. But directly trying to broker some kind of deal when neither side is ready is misplaced. There's also multiple other parties at this table with lots at stake for their futures.
Of course we could just do an end-around all our allies and try to give the Russians what they want.
Or we could threaten to withhold weapons and aide to Ukraine unless Zelinsky fabricates some stories about Hunter Biden.There are always back channel discussions. But directly trying to broker some kind of deal when neither side is ready is misplaced. There's also multiple other parties at this table with lots at stake for their fut
Of course we could just do an end-around all our allies and try to give the Russians what they want.
I don’t think any fabrication is necessary at this point. lol. It seems pretty straightforward. I think his dad was the one to withhold money unless a prosecutor was fired, but whatever.
.... maybe you should undelete my posts 
I'm guessing we are going to ensure our European allies can buy Natural Gas from us and stop buying from Russia, same with oil and really squeeze his economy...Now that we have a stable oil market with competition...There are always back channel discussions. But directly trying to broker some kind of deal when neither side is ready is misplaced. There's also multiple other parties at this table with lots at stake for their futures.
Of course we could just do an end-around all our allies and try to give the Russians what they want.