Well I am ugly, fat & stupid....ordered me some Professor Muschamp glasses....hope it helps. Carry on.
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Evaluating Muschamp tenure at the helm so far
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Sporkgod50
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I'm all for disagreeing. In fact it is often fun. But there is no need for name calling. (I'm sure I do it to and I hope someone calls me on it when I do, because I'll deserve it)
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I Love The Smell Of Napalm In The Morning. I remember this days back in the 60's. Fighting back and forth is like a war nobody wins. Agree to disagree might be best.
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i love the “accepting mediocrity” mantra that keeps being floated around here. It seems we’ve got some guys that believe anything less than perfect is mediocre. They are delusional and wouldn’t be happy if we won the Natty. They can’t be reasoned with and it’s a shame they have a platform to spew their venom.
Also, speaking of venom, some real hatred being posted towards Bentley and his family on here. That’s some really mean spirited sh—t. Its embarrassing to be a Gamecock. Shameful.
Also, speaking of venom, some real hatred being posted towards Bentley and his family on here. That’s some really mean spirited sh—t. Its embarrassing to be a Gamecock. Shameful.
We failed to build a rhythm with the short pass. Have to give your QB some confidence on those long balls
Biggest issue I had was the pass inside the 5 after running all the way down the 5. Think a TD to make its 24-17 would have changed the game.
We more than had our chances, there’s nothing wrong with the scheme. Yes, I’m sure there are more dynamic playcallers than BMac in the game....but we have open guys on a lot of plays and we can’t convert. Too many guys dropping passes.
To me, biggest thing we’re lacking is dynamic playmakers who can burn the defense once they get the ball in their hands. There’s a huge talent drop off after Edwards.
Agreed. But I would also say pass protection has been an issue. It’s funny, last year Bentley had plenty of time but we couldn’t run the ball. This year we can run it but we can’t protect the quarterback. Go figure.
Coach Elliot received his walking papers for his lack of OL talent along with poor execution and now the Gamecocks look just about as bad with Wolford recruits and the poor execution. Question where do you go from here. Fire the OC or start looking again for a replacement for Wolford? Fire this one fire that one seems to never change lately. Should the Gamecocks be on the out look for a new OL Coach ?
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No way, are you crazy? Wolford is probably the best offensive coach we have on staff.
The pass protection has not been great, but it’s not a disaster either. I mean we have played three top 10 teams this year. We are running the crap out of the football. This is not an offensive line coach problem. Trust me, I’ve seen some pretty awful South Carolina offensive lines.
You misunderstood my comment...with offensive lines there are very few that can have their cake and eat it too. You either have a line that can run block great but struggles with pass blocking, or a great pass blocking line they can’t run the ball. It’s just the way college football is for 95% of the teams out there. Look at what we did to Georgia’s vaunted 5* offensive line last week. Best in the country they said. Maybe there are five or six teams in the country that can do both well, but it’s probably more by accident.
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78Gamecock
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The talent on both Offense and defense is improving, but the results are not. Makes you wonder if we are getting the best recruiting team, but not the best players for our needs or system, or we have good talent identifiers, but not good X's and O's coaches who can use the talent to its maximum potential. Look at the quarterbacks and you will start to see some patterns. Starting this year, we had two drop back passers (Bentley and Hilinski), and two mobile (Joyner and Ulrich) quarterbacks. If that was planned, which i doubt, then why aren't we looking to take advantage of the different skill sets to create defensive matchups. Why don't our game plans show any creativity to strain the opponent's defense with challenging lineups, sets, routes, and blocking. We see some, but if that doesn't work, then we run a bunch formation, with pulling guards and they quickly counter with 8 in the box, plus run bitzes. Game over. In the second half, we threw 4 stretch plays, and missed them all. Champ said we tried, end of subject, back to short flats, behind the line passes. The receiver was open all three times. One he would have caught the ball, but he was pushed at the last minute. Why not put Ryan on the sidelines for a series or two, maybe his knee was bothering him, and let Joyner take a shot at it for a couple or series. He can run that same play, or a RPO or rollout to the flat, maybe get a first down or two. No, we took our shot, Game over, need to throw better.
It appears that we put together game plans based on wanting to do something (like run), versus identifying our strengths and weaknesses and leveraging these against the opponents weaknesses, while limiting exposure to our weaknesses. It looks like they call a vanilla plan (two runs and a pass then punt for field position for 60% of the plays), and try to get to the second half. Then try to react to what the other team is doing, and hope we can stop them on defense, and get just enough offense to win. This worked in year one and two, when the schedule was not as brutal, and we lucked out with some good play. But being predictable on offense will destroy your offensive line play, since they depend on having the first step advantage at any level of football. When you're predictable, the defense can now put extra people where you intend to be. We you put nine people (including QB) between the tackles on Offense, an aggressive defense will burn you more time than not, particularly when our QB's are trying to survive the pocket. I for one was disappointed in Jake, but I don't put all of the blame on him, and I am seeing the same thing with Hilinski. They both have been struggling to follow a plan that requires them to make decisions on the level that is impossible. Our definition of a quick hitter has two to three levels of progressions to read, usually interrupted by a linebacker or DB trying to take your head off. These guys both have the capability, but you have to scheme for them, and help the line at the same time, by rolling the pocket, or using a mobile QB. Now look at our number 2 and 3 QB's, we're running them a WR; are you kidding me. Where is the game plan for a mobile QB, and don't tell me it can't be put in during the season, becasue you knew the talent going in. If you weren't going to use a mobile QB, and just stay drop back, then why recruit Doty? It appears that we just recruit for ratings, and really do not know what we want them for; at least at QB.
It is a simple position, the offense cannot keep up it's end of the bargain, so the defense is having to pull too much. Now i also believe that the Defense is not all roses either, and suffers from some of the same issues that the Offense does of "we'll figure it out at half time, and then react". They do seem to be able to do that to an extent, but that is risky territory as we saw last Saturday. The bottom line, is that Champ has no confidence in his players or coordinators / coaches, so he is have both try to play a game plan that is based on not trying to do too much, so he can protect both the offense and defense. Look at the teams in the playoffs, he would see that they have coordinators, who strive to score so much they exhaust the defense, or challenge the Offense to literally embarrass the competition, by stuffing them time after time. He went after top 5 QBs, then why not challenge their talent by scheming them to less decisions, and easier reads. That is where we were with Jake in year 1 and most of 2. Years three we started talking about football IQ and decision making, and asked him to be the coach on the field. the results suck. If we cannot get back to real game planning, you will now find we are doomed to winning games 10-7 or 17-10, which are now few and far between, and are for the mediocre.
So, if Champ wants to stay, then he has to either turn his offensive guy loose, and make them show him that they can create schemes to use the talent we have to make us a serious threat to score every time the Defense gives them the ball, or get a new offensive coordinator that is a beast at driving offenses to high productivity. Our facilities and conference makes us an ideal home for a coordinator who wants the challenge of a dynamic offense and then be a head coach and hold both coordinators feet to the fire.
He can stay or go, but he has to make changes.
It appears that we put together game plans based on wanting to do something (like run), versus identifying our strengths and weaknesses and leveraging these against the opponents weaknesses, while limiting exposure to our weaknesses. It looks like they call a vanilla plan (two runs and a pass then punt for field position for 60% of the plays), and try to get to the second half. Then try to react to what the other team is doing, and hope we can stop them on defense, and get just enough offense to win. This worked in year one and two, when the schedule was not as brutal, and we lucked out with some good play. But being predictable on offense will destroy your offensive line play, since they depend on having the first step advantage at any level of football. When you're predictable, the defense can now put extra people where you intend to be. We you put nine people (including QB) between the tackles on Offense, an aggressive defense will burn you more time than not, particularly when our QB's are trying to survive the pocket. I for one was disappointed in Jake, but I don't put all of the blame on him, and I am seeing the same thing with Hilinski. They both have been struggling to follow a plan that requires them to make decisions on the level that is impossible. Our definition of a quick hitter has two to three levels of progressions to read, usually interrupted by a linebacker or DB trying to take your head off. These guys both have the capability, but you have to scheme for them, and help the line at the same time, by rolling the pocket, or using a mobile QB. Now look at our number 2 and 3 QB's, we're running them a WR; are you kidding me. Where is the game plan for a mobile QB, and don't tell me it can't be put in during the season, becasue you knew the talent going in. If you weren't going to use a mobile QB, and just stay drop back, then why recruit Doty? It appears that we just recruit for ratings, and really do not know what we want them for; at least at QB.
It is a simple position, the offense cannot keep up it's end of the bargain, so the defense is having to pull too much. Now i also believe that the Defense is not all roses either, and suffers from some of the same issues that the Offense does of "we'll figure it out at half time, and then react". They do seem to be able to do that to an extent, but that is risky territory as we saw last Saturday. The bottom line, is that Champ has no confidence in his players or coordinators / coaches, so he is have both try to play a game plan that is based on not trying to do too much, so he can protect both the offense and defense. Look at the teams in the playoffs, he would see that they have coordinators, who strive to score so much they exhaust the defense, or challenge the Offense to literally embarrass the competition, by stuffing them time after time. He went after top 5 QBs, then why not challenge their talent by scheming them to less decisions, and easier reads. That is where we were with Jake in year 1 and most of 2. Years three we started talking about football IQ and decision making, and asked him to be the coach on the field. the results suck. If we cannot get back to real game planning, you will now find we are doomed to winning games 10-7 or 17-10, which are now few and far between, and are for the mediocre.
So, if Champ wants to stay, then he has to either turn his offensive guy loose, and make them show him that they can create schemes to use the talent we have to make us a serious threat to score every time the Defense gives them the ball, or get a new offensive coordinator that is a beast at driving offenses to high productivity. Our facilities and conference makes us an ideal home for a coordinator who wants the challenge of a dynamic offense and then be a head coach and hold both coordinators feet to the fire.
He can stay or go, but he has to make changes.
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Yes I agree :thumbs-up-hand-gesture-smiley-small: This is the response I wanted to hear from fans. and yes I did misunderstood your comment. Good post Mr. Ed......
Very good points if he does not have confidence in his OC to run the show, needs to find one and let him or keep BMack let them run it full speed. Boom just needs to worry about the D. That is his expertise.
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Well, let’s hit your points.
Our overall team talent is improving, we’re still in the position of trying to build quality depth. We’re getting there, but we still have a bit to go.
One thing we’re still critically short of is playmaking receivers who’re a threat to take it to the house every time they touch the ball. Edwards is the closest to being that kind of player, but he’s still more of a “possession” type receiver. We have a lot of highly touted guys who either can’t consistently get open or can’t consistently catch the ball...provided the QB can get the ball to them.
Pretty much everyone pointed out that Dak was going to be a several year project to be an effective QB. Great athlete, but had a ton of mechanics to work on. Urich is actually more of a jumbo athlete than a true QB. Joyner wasn’t a good option to try in the UF game, his hamstring is still bothering him. Last place you want to put a running QB with a bad leg is a wet field in the middle of a driving rainstorm. I don’t see the controversy in putting either at WR, we need every athlete we can get.
Stretching the field is important, but you have to hit on some of those passes. Some are the Qb’s fault, some the receiver. Miss that long pass, you’re looking at 2nd and 10 or 3rd and 10. Hard to make that up when the overall passing game is struggling.
Youre saying Champ has no confidence in BMac, and “doesn’t want to turn him loose”...but there’s actually zero evidence of that other than internet griping. He’s said on a few occasions BMac has free reign calling plays.
Schemes are fine. We get good play calls, but we miss a pass, drop a pass, or whiff on a block that causes Ryan or other guys to risk decapitation.
We need better talent. It’s coming, but it’s harder to build depth with tighter recruiting numbers.
This didn't age well. Even the biggest sunshine pumpers can't still make excuses for this crap show of a team.