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What should our response be if Russia invades Ukraine?
- Thread starter Blitzkrieg
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When the Billion dollar aid package was being voted on we were told this was for defensive weapons only, no tanks or fighter jets will be involved... We are slowly starting WWIII, gave the Iranians freedom to help fund Russia as we fund Ukraine while both Russia and Ukraine send kids to die for what?
Not picking at you, but Putin started this crap; he could certainly decide to end the carnage and human suffering if he chooses to do so.
You should probably PM Putin and tell him you will buy him and his cabinet complimentary Bo-Berry biscuits if they will simply GTFO of Ukraine. LOL
Dibs on your stapler at the office when he subsequently decides to send a hit squad to take out you and your family. LOL
Paper enemy, so it was cool to take Crimea but now it is worth WWIII, things are never as black and white is you portray them... The only thing I have to fear. Is fear itself!
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More from the tactics of the wagner group
www.cnn.com
“We were fighting for about 10 hours in a row. And it wasn’t like just waves, it was uninterrupted. So it was just like they didn’t stop coming.”
Their AK-47 rifles became so hot from constant firing, Andriy says, that they had to keep changing them.
“It was about 20 soldiers on our side. And let’s say 200 from their side,” he says.
The Wagner way of war is to send a first wave of attackers that mainly comprises raw recruits straight out of Russian prisons. They know little of military tactics and are poorly equipped. Most just hope that if they survive their six-month contract they can go home rather than back to a cell
“They make the group – let’s say from 10 soldiers – reach 30 meters, then they start digging in to keep the position,” Andriy says of Wagner.
Another group follows, he says, to claim another 30 meters. “That’s how, step by step, (Wagner) is trying to move forward, while they lose a lot of people in the meantime.”
Only when the first wave is exhausted or cut down do Wagner send in more experienced combatants, often from the flanks, in an effort to overrun Ukrainian positions.
Andriy says facing the assault was a frightening and surreal experience.
“Our machine gunner was almost getting crazy, because he was shooting at them. And he said, I know I shot him, but he doesn’t fall. And then after some time, when he maybe bleeds out, so he just falls down.”
Andriy compares the battle to a scene out of a zombie movie. “They’re climbing above the corpse of their friends, stepping on them,” he says.
“It looks like it’s very, very likely that they are getting some drugs before attack,” he says, a claim that CNN has not been able independently to verify.
Fighting Wagner is like a 'zombie movie' says Ukrainian soldier | CNN
Southwest of the city of Bakhmut, Ukrainian soldiers Andriy and Borisych live in a candle-lit bunker cut into the frozen earth. For several weeks they have been confronting hundreds of fighters belonging to the Russian private military contractor Wagner throwing themselves against Ukrainian...
www.cnn.com
“We were fighting for about 10 hours in a row. And it wasn’t like just waves, it was uninterrupted. So it was just like they didn’t stop coming.”
Their AK-47 rifles became so hot from constant firing, Andriy says, that they had to keep changing them.
“It was about 20 soldiers on our side. And let’s say 200 from their side,” he says.
The Wagner way of war is to send a first wave of attackers that mainly comprises raw recruits straight out of Russian prisons. They know little of military tactics and are poorly equipped. Most just hope that if they survive their six-month contract they can go home rather than back to a cell
“They make the group – let’s say from 10 soldiers – reach 30 meters, then they start digging in to keep the position,” Andriy says of Wagner.
Another group follows, he says, to claim another 30 meters. “That’s how, step by step, (Wagner) is trying to move forward, while they lose a lot of people in the meantime.”
Only when the first wave is exhausted or cut down do Wagner send in more experienced combatants, often from the flanks, in an effort to overrun Ukrainian positions.
Andriy says facing the assault was a frightening and surreal experience.
“Our machine gunner was almost getting crazy, because he was shooting at them. And he said, I know I shot him, but he doesn’t fall. And then after some time, when he maybe bleeds out, so he just falls down.”
Andriy compares the battle to a scene out of a zombie movie. “They’re climbing above the corpse of their friends, stepping on them,” he says.
“It looks like it’s very, very likely that they are getting some drugs before attack,” he says, a claim that CNN has not been able independently to verify.
Russians prefer falling out of windows.
I don't disagree who the prime culprit is here...and it must end somewhere but what is that point?The first Javelin missiles we sent last March were offensive weapons.
Russia has painted themselves and the west into corners.
We have no choice but to stand up to them. It has to end somewhere.
Yeah, yeah and it will be a quick war and Ukraine is embarrassing Russia... Wouldn't it have been cheaper to let them keep their nukes, who negotiated taking thier nukes and told them we would protect them?The first Javelin missiles we sent last March were offensive weapons.
Russia has painted themselves and the west into corners.
We have no choice but to stand up to them. It has to end somewhere.
I believe poison is the weapon of choice or EMP...
The only way this war ends is when Putin decides it's over, or if he gets overthrown. Neither of which I see a likely anytime soon. unfortunately.
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Russia has to stop fighting. If the west quits their support, then Russia is empowered to claim victory and then plan eventual retribution going forward.
Then Cold War II will be back for decades.
And this also empowers the PRC, DPRK, and any other potential adversary that's watching, that the west will back down if pushed.
Dictators/authoritarians have a way of surviving & the Russians have a way of deferring blame to a scape goat.
President Clinton?
Then you get this crap:
www.al.com
Niko Medved and Colorado State handed it to us 85-53 in the Charleston Classic earlier this year, but they are 10-14 right now.
Utah State ended up winning the game 88-79 to go to 19-5 overall.
Good on 'em.
Colorado State apologizes for ‘Russia’ chant at Utah State’s Ukrainian player Max Shulga, who responds
Colorado State said in a series of tweets that the chant came from a "small group of individuals."
www.al.com
Niko Medved and Colorado State handed it to us 85-53 in the Charleston Classic earlier this year, but they are 10-14 right now.
Utah State ended up winning the game 88-79 to go to 19-5 overall.
Good on 'em.
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United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately
The United States has told its citizens to leave Russia immediately due to the war in Ukraine and the risk of arbitrary arrest or harassment by Russian law enforcement agencies.
www.reuters.com
I mean really if you have not already left. Next thing you know we are going to have to trade some other high level prisoner for someone who did not think it was a good idea sometime back to get out.United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately
The United States has told its citizens to leave Russia immediately due to the war in Ukraine and the risk of arbitrary arrest or harassment by Russian law enforcement agencies.
Might wind up getting "conscripted" to the front lines in Ukraine.