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What should our response be if Russia invades Ukraine?

Spur's Addiction said:
www.si.com

Ukrainian tennis player Sergiy Stakhovsky leaves family to join army - Sports Illustrated

The now retired ATP Tour winner admitted he has zero military experience or training.
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The eight-time ATP Tour title winner Sergiy Stakhovsky announced he will be joining the Ukrainian army to defend his home country.

Stakhovsky was just playing in the Australian Open in January, but following the tournament announced his retirement after 19 years.

Now, the 36-year-old is hanging up his racket to fight for his country amid the ongoing Russian invasion. He announced earlier this week on BBC Radio 4 Todaythat he would be leaving his wife and three kids to join the army.

“I know that it is extremely hard on my wife,” Stakhovsky said. “My kids don’t know that I’m here. They don’t understand war. They‘re too little to understand what’s going on.”
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Damn...these Ukrainians are showing some amazing courage.
 
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Haas F1 terminates contract with Russian racer Mazepin - team

Russian Nikita Mazepin will not race in Formula One this season after U.S.-owned Haas said on Saturday it has terminated the driver's contract.
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Haas also ended its sponsorship with Russian company Uralkali, owned by Mazepin's father.

“As with the rest of the Formula 1 community, the team is shocked and saddened by the invasion of Ukraine and wishes for a swift and peaceful end to the conflict,” Haas said in a statement Saturday.

The 23-year-old Mazepin did not score a point in his debut F1 season last year alongside Mick Schumacher, the son of seven-time F1 champion Michael Schumacher.
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Putin says economic sanctions are equivalent to declaring war. Did he just declare war on the rest of the world?
 
Blitzkrieg said:
What is this guy's end game, it makes no sense.
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His end game was for a quick assault on Kiev, take out the government and install a puppet regime. That did not happen. He severely underestimated Ukrainian resistance and sanctions from the rest of the world, while overestimating the strength of his military.

He’s backed into a corner now with no plan B, and the only thing left is to bomb Ukraine into the ground.

Not sure if there is an off-ramp for Putin that will let him ‘save face‘, and claim some sort of ‘victory’ and withdraw.
 
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Spur's Addiction said:
His end game was for a quick assault on Kiev, take out the government and install a puppet regime. That did not happen. He severely underestimated Ukrainian resistance and sanctions from the rest of the world, while overestimating the strength of his military.

He’s backed into a corner now with no plan B, and the only thing left is to bomb Ukraine into the ground.

Not sure if there is an off-ramp for Putin that will let him ‘save face‘, and claim some sort of ‘victory’ and withdraw.
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I get that part of it but this declaration about putting his nuclear forces on "high alert" and putting sanctions on a country is the equivalent of declaring war seems soooo over the top.
 
Spur's Addiction said:
Not sure if there is an off-ramp for Putin that will let him ‘save face‘, and claim some sort of ‘victory’ and withdraw.
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Don't think there is one.

Problem is....if we try and create and "off-ramp" to save some of Ukraine, it's considered "appeasement". :oops:
We're left to helping the Ukrainians slog it out with a protracted insurgency fed by western help.

Putin has sh_t his bed.
 
Blitzkrieg said:
I get that part of it but this declaration about putting his nuclear forces on "high alert" and putting sanctions on a country is the equivalent of declaring war seems soooo over the top.
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Yep....an indication that his plate is missing a few biscuits.
 
Blitzkrieg said:
I get that part of it but this declaration about putting his nuclear forces on "high alert" and putting sanctions on a country is the equivalent of declaring war seems soooo over the top.
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I just think he has been outplayed and has no other options. that is all I can think of.
 
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Spur's Addiction said:
I just think he has been outplayed and has no other options. that is all I can think of.
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Our best hope is that someone inside Russia takes him out, declares that Russia never wanted to invade Ukraine putting all of the blame on Putin and Putin alone, agrees to an immediate cease fire and begins withdrawing their troops.

Also FWIW the UN is an absolute joke.
 
Flightradar24 continues to track NATO tankers in orbit near the borders with Ukraine & with Moldova. You don't fly tankers in a orbit unless you are supporting fighters flying in similar airspace flying combat air patrols.
There is also a USAF VIP transport that has been flying back and forth.

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www.stripes.com

Top Russian general killed in Ukraine

Maj. Gen. Andrei Sukhovetsky, the commanding general of the Russian 7th Airborne Division, was killed in fighting in Ukraine earlier this week.
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Also this:

nypost.com

Two more Russian commanders reportedly killed in Ukraine

Two top Russian military officials have been killed in Ukraine in addition to the general already taken out by snipers, Western intelligence officials claimed Friday.
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On a side note, it is absolutely great that the Stars and Stripes newspaper is still around.
 
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JimG said:
Flightradar24 continues to track NATO tankers in orbit near the borders with Ukraine & with Moldova. You don't fly tankers in a orbit unless you are supporting fighters flying in similar airspace flying combat air patrols.
There is also a USAF VIP transport that has been flying back and forth.

www.flightradar24.com

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I would think that any Russian asset that invades a NATO country would most likely be staged somewhere in Ukraine at some point.

My thought is once Russian military assets cross the wrong border, the stuff is going to hit the fan and any Russian asset in Ukraine would be fair game at that point.
 
JimG said:
Not sure they can even take Ukraine. The Ukrainians are putting up an unprecedented fight.

This video in this CNN link is inspiring.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/06/politics/mark-milley-ukraine-military-assistance/index.html
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Great info about the Ukrainians being trained on the equipment as well.

Perhaps most notably, a massive Russian convoy spanning 40 miles of road north of Kyiv, Ukraine's capital, has barely moved in days.
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"We know that they have conducted attacks on that convoy, that those attacks were effective in slowing and stopping it," another senior Defense official said Friday.
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The equipment being sent in is equipment on which the Ukrainians have already received training, including some "just-in-time" training in late December and early January, the senior official said, adding that the Ukrainians can "use proficiently" the vast majority of the military equipment being sent in.
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They shot down nine Russian jets in a single day over the weekend.

www.thesun.co.uk

Russian pilots plead they were 'following orders' as NINE aircraft shot down

RUSSIAN pilots were filmed pleading they were “following orders” as they were captured after nine aircraft were shot down in one day over Ukraine. Pictures show the burning wrecks of Ru…
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The comments of the captured Russian pilots are telling and may be a clue as to why the operations in Ukraine will fail.
 
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